Really. If you can physically travel, that's great, but it isn't necessary in this day and age to find news that is actually news. You just can't find it in the U. S. anymore.

No matter what your leaning, American news all but ignores happenings in the rest of the world. Oh, if a Royal stubs a toe you'll hear about it, but when was the last time you heard of how Hungary is addressing the flood of immigrants? Or how French technology might impact the 3D printing world? Are European or Asian stock markets up or down? Will the border conflict between India and China escalate into something hotter than it already is?

American news isn't news anymore. It's propaganda. It's opinion masquerading as information. It's almost as if the entire world is contained within the (very porous) borders of the country.

On a trip to Austria last fall, I found a number of English-language news channels on the hotel TV. Broadcasts emanating from England, Russia, France, and Austria to name a few. I settled on France24. The link is to their website, where you can watch live streaming. If you didn't know this was a French production, you'd swear by watching and listening that this was as American as the next. Except the news is really news!

There is also euronews. Live streaming is blocked to the U. S. but by using a VPN, you should be able to stream the news from there as well. There are others. And they're easy to find.

It's really sad it's come to this. Fox News, CNN, and everything in between is guilty of agenda-driven broadcasting. Control of the media is a sign of totalitarianism. We the people, do not have to succumb.

You’re right about our media. I noticed it when I began to read articles on social media linked from various European news outlets that were covering events in America. An article informing people of facts about a news worthy event without opinion and spin is something that is quite rare in the American propagandist corporate media.

I strongly prefer Epoch Times. Their coverage on China is spot on and they back everything up with...wait for it...actual evidence!

The big U.S. media is completely worthless, including Fox.

Thanks for this topic, I'm keenly interested.

I'd like to learn of more websites related to this topic.

Subscribing to this thread...

I travel all over the globe, constantly.

The only difference with US news is that it's US-centric.

Abroad, even US news featuring international components, feature a broader spectrum.

The various major news outlets out there are all biased one way or the other, from BBC to Al Jazeera to RT russian...there's something to be gleaned from them, but all of it needs to be taken as a part of the picture, and not the whole picture.

The Russian news is typically the most subtle, but subversive, in nature, in their reporting. It's low key, but it's there.

Short form news journalism I've stopped following, the quality and the level of information has been so bad over teh last 20-years, I've just stopped. I recently started following City Journal, both its written and 10-Blocks podcast are straight to the point, not filled with fluff and well balanced articles.

Recently the NYT sacked its opinion editor..because he permitted, Tom Cotton's opinion piece, about using the military to deal with protestors to run. News services around the world sat up and took notice, was this the point of no return for the NYT's rapid slide to the far-left?
The Hill recently had an op-ed, that quoted from the rigidly centrist Swiss newspaper, Neue Zurcher Zeitung
The NYT and the Cotton op-ed: Opinion or party line?

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In its analysis of the incident, the NZZ claims that Bennet made himself unpopular because, unlike most liberal U.S. media, he occasionally published pieces that critically questioned political correctness.

The NZZ opines that Bennet’s dismissal can be interpreted as signaling the end of newspaper opinion departments as places of free thought, and the beginning of a moralistic culture of denunciation that denies critical thinking to readers: “With Bennet's dismissal, media polarization has reached a new, radicalized phase. Whether in right-wing media such as Fox and Breitbart or the CNN on the left, it is no longer a question of debate and opinion formation, but of exclusion of opinion. In this atmosphere, different opinions are not considered a challenge, but an offense.”

Here’s how the NZZ viewed the episode: “The New York Times bizarrely conducts self-censorship in the name of liberal values, suppresses the plurality of opinions and enforces the absolute, artificially produced and all the more insincere consensus with its own ‘party line.’”

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."..... it is no longer a question of debate and opinion formation, but of exclusion of opinion. In this atmosphere, different opinions are not considered a challenge, but an offense.”

Pretty much sums up U.S. news reporting.

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Originally posted by jcsabolt2:
I strongly prefer Epoch Times. Their coverage on China is spot on and they back everything up with...wait for it...actual evidence!

The big U.S. media is completely worthless, including Fox.

+1 for Epoch Times.

Silent

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Want Real News? Go Abroad.

Just don't get into S. Korean "news". My wife (SK native) states that their garbage is no different from the corrupt media over here, because all they do is parroting what they see from CNN, MSNBC, and the rest... Trump hating 24/7, no investigative journalism whatsoever. And, the people there are just as brainwashed as the sheep over here.

We get CNN International here......It's actually worse than the U.S. broadcast and the people here drink it up like it's the gospel. The Guatemalan news isn't much better. I absolutely want to vomit after watching CNN International that airs in public spaces. When I tell the people here that it's utter B.S. they get a deer in the headlights look. It does lead to some interesting and often enlightening conversations though. I'll check out Epoch Times.

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Originally posted by Bigbuck5: It does lead to some interesting and often enlightening conversations though.

Its easy to form impressions, when information that is pertinent to the event, is left out. the news isn't lying, they're just minimizing some of the information or, over-emphasizing the parts/segments they want to promote

Do those you speak with, come to any realization that what they receive is only partial information and much of what passes for news, is merely editorialized commentary by the presenter?

Just added France 24 to my Roku TV channel line up.... we'll see.

Going to look for an Australian channel that isn't uber liberal if one exists.

Good luck bald1. When I was in Australia I remember seeing a newspaper with a sensational headline about killer berries that people might be putting needles into or some ridiculous crap.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Good luck bald1. When I was in Australia I remember seeing a newspaper with a sensational headline about killer berries that people might be putting needles into or some ridiculous crap.

Understood and after some searching it appears what I would like to see from down under doesn't exist. Closest would be Australian Sky News, but still.....

Just the news founded by investigative journalist John Soloman

https://justthenews.com/

I trust Zero Hedge more than the MSM

https://www.zerohedge.com/

I like the Epoch Times, as well as Soloman's just the news. I also found an interesting blog https://gatesofvienna.net/. It is worth a peek now and then. A lot is translated news and some commentary.I have found no other quite like it.

Spending the last 5 years on and off living in France, I've had quite the opposite opinion of French news including France24. Most French news outlets are very left leaning- even the "conservative" ones like Le Figaro are still left of center. News in France still sensationalises the news just like here in the US. There is often a lot of anti-Trump sentiment, and anti-US generalities.

Imagine my surprise today when the following news story appeared on France24. Note, I am not approving or disproving.

Manchester (United Kingdom) (AFP)

The start to Manchester City's Premier League match against Burnley on Monday was marred by a plane flying overhead pulling a banner reading "White lives matter Burnley".

The aircraft was seen flying above City's Etihad Stadium shortly after all players and match officials had taken a knee in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement. It reportedly continued to circle the stadium after kick-off.

Burnley were quick to react, issuing a statement at half-time saying the club "strongly condemns the actions of those responsible for the aircraft and offensive banner that flew over The Etihad Stadium on Monday evening".

"We wish to make it clear that those responsible are not welcome at Turf Moor. This, in no way, represents what Burnley Football Club stands for and we will work fully with the authorities to identify those responsible and take appropriate action.

"We are fully behind the Premier League's Black Lives Matter initiative and, in line with all other Premier League games undertaken since Project Restart, our players and football staff willingly took the knee at kick-off at Manchester City.

"We apologise unreservedly to the Premier League, to Manchester City and to all those helping to promote Black Lives Matter."

Players in the Premier League have been wearing shirts bearing the Black Lives Matter slogan.

The gesture comes following the death of black American George Floyd at the hands of police last month, which sparked protests around the world and led to sportspeople showing solidarity with those demonstrations.

Everyone so quick to bow down to our domestic terrorists.

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Originally posted by bald1:
Understood and after some searching it appears what I would like to see from down under doesn't exist. Closest would be Australian Sky News, but still.....

You can get ABC Australia live stream on YouTube. I turn it off when the really slanted hosts are on vs just new reporting.