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A "triple" is 3 8 hours shifts back to back. A "quad" is 4 8 hour shifts back to back. The Warden (or whatever his title) is providing taxis for them to and from home because he thinks they're too tired to drive-but not too tired to work a shift. When we were short in the feds, I would schedule my officers for 12 on/12 off, 7 days a week. Worked that schedule myself for a number of years, the longest stretch being 20 months at FCI Englewood, CO with the Cuban detainees.
 
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It's hard for me to imagine any LEO, especially Prison Officers, to work not fully rested and alert. That's an accident waiting to happen, like falling asleep behind the wheel on a Semi. It's a suicide mission. The longest I've ever worked without stopping (literally) was 48 hrs iirc, and I got to the point where I could not function any longer (software engineering systems upgrades on a tight weekend schedule in a Navy server farm SCIF. My partner was still going when I just laid down on the floor and took a nap. I thought I could keep going just by keeping my eyes open and keep my fingers moving, but my working memory went 100% to hell, and I was literally useless on the computer. I remember the drive home was dicey, since I was so tired I wasn't really awake and far from alert. I just should have just slept on the floor overnight, got breakfast, and drive home the next morning. My buddy finished the job, he was one tough son of a gun, and one of the best IT techs I've ever known. He was also very fit, he ran and cycled long distances in the heat of summer. He was an Air Force Academy graduate and served a short time as a commissioned officer doing some type of work with programming fighter aircraft weapons systems or another. That dude was as tough as he was smart. He is still a good friend I try to stay in touch from time to time.

All that to say, until that point I never really understood how quickly function can decline, or like me, completely disappear, with extreme fatigue.

Funny thing was if we had not finished successfully by Monday morning, we would have been in a shit load of trouble. It was the main funds distribution and disbursement system for the US Navy Atlantic Command, so I get it. It's a good memory, but I was humbled that weekend, learning (again) you can't fool mother nature.




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A "triple" is 3 8 hours shifts back to back. A "quad" is 4 8 hour shifts back to back. The Warden (or whatever his title) is providing taxis for them to and from home because he thinks they're too tired to drive-but not too tired to work a shift. When we were short in the feds, I would schedule my officers for 12 on/12 off, 7 days a week. Worked that schedule myself for a number of years, the longest stretch being 20 months at FCI Englewood, CO with the Cuban detainees.


So they are being required to work 24 and 32 hours straight through without any time off to sleep?

I can’t comprehend how that is even possible to get to that point, or who would continue to be explored there under such conditions.

I can’t comprehend why it is allowed to continue. Apparently people don’t understand the effect of fatigue on judgement and decision making alone.

Unfathomable.
 
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So they are being required to work 24 and 32 hours straight through without any time off to sleep?

I can’t comprehend how that is even possible to get to that point, or who would continue to be explored there under such conditions.

I can’t comprehend why it is allowed to continue. Apparently people don’t understand the effect of fatigue on judgement and decision making alone.

Unfathomable.


They don't have a choice. There is no replacement staff. Usually a prison officer gets in trouble for falling asleep on the job, but given the current circumstances, I imagine they might look the other way if the overnight officer closes his eyes and gets a power nap.

I worked overnights in the prison way back. Half the staff had a full time (40 hours per week) day job, and they slept half the night at their "night" prison job. They worked 80 hours a week. They mostly got the job done, and closed their eyes for power naps during slow times.


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NYC jails boss admits ‘serious problems’ at Rikers Island

https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/...ms-at-rikers-island/

The head of the city’s jails on Thursday acknowledged “serious problems” at Rikers Island, just hours after The Post exclusively revealed video clips of three inmates attacking another and a group of inmates partying inside a cell.

Correction Commissioner Vincent Schiraldi said he hadn’t seen the disturbing cellphone recordings that were posted on TikTok but didn’t dispute their authenticity during an afternoon news conference.

“The level of disorder here is deeply, deeply troubling,” Schiraldi said after being told what the videos show.

“I’m not going to deny that there are serious problems here.”

Schiraldi said work was underway to repair an unspecified number of broken cell doors in Rikers’ Robert N. Davoren Complex for young males, where the video that shows inmates dancing to music, smoking and drinking from large bottles is believed to have been shot.

Half of the doors have been fixed, Schiraldi said, and he pledged to have the rest finished by the spring.

COBA spokesman Michael Skelly said that no correction officers had been hired since February 2019 despite more than 1,300 resignations prompted by the triple shifts that officers are routinely forced to work without warning.

“Don’t tell us after we’re working 25 hours…after we’re victimized by a brutal inmate assault… to suck it up and come back to work,” he said.

Skelly also said that Schiraldi had increased his planned hiring by 50 percent — from 400 officers in February — in a tacit admission that Rikers was dramatically short-staffed.

The City Council’s Criminal Justice Committee plans to hold an oversight hearing Wednesday on the conditions at Rikers.

“I think the jails are in severe, severe, severe crisis. I mean, we’re seeing it every single day — hearing it from the staff at Rikers, the leadership at Rikers, lawyers for the people that are on Rikers Island,” Council Speaker Corey Johnson (D-Manhattan) said.

“We need to understand what their plan is, we need to understand what they need to be able to make Rikers a safe place — because it’s not safe right now, for the folks that are incarcerated or the folks that are working there.”

Councilman Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island) said, “The problem is that it’s not a surprise; the union and elected officials have been sounding the alarm on this crisis for nearly two years.”

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Other countries around the world must be laughing at us (this just being another reason) for how weak we have become. Under the leftist traitors, we have become a nation of pussies in their eyes.




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De Blasio didn’t see inmates, guards on ‘sugar-coated’ Rikers tour

September 27, 2021

https://nypost.com/2021/09/27/...ards-on-rikers-tour/

Mayor de Blasio begrudgingly toured Rikers Island Monday following immense pressure from other elected officials horrified by their own experiences visiting the problem-plagued jail complex — but didn’t speak to a single inmate, a rank-and-file correction officer or even glimpse a cell that houses a prisoner.

“Today was not about speaking to the individual officers,” de Blasio told reporters at a press conference after his 90-minute tour.

“Today was about the work we have to do and that’s what I’m focused on,” de Blasio said.

He said he didn’t meet with inmates for the same reason.

The mayor also didn’t visit any of the areas that house incarcerated people. Instead he saw an emptied-out intake area.

Hizzoner previously resisted calls to see the deteriorating conditions at the 6,000-person lockup, insisting that he was focused on a five-point plan to reduce violence and improve living conditions.

Union officials blasted the mayor for failing to even look at a cell, many of which have doors with broken locks putting the inmates at risk.

“They gave him a watered-down, sugar-coated tour today,” said Benny Boscio, head of the Correction Officers’ Benevolent Association.

“He did not go see any housing areas where inmates are housed, they cleared out the area. You could smell the paint, they’d just painted,” Boscio said.

Councilman Bob Holden (D-Queens), who toured the complex last week, was dumbfounded by de Blasio’s “sugar-coated” tour.

“That’s unbelievable,” Holden said.

“When we went we spoke to the correction officers, we spoke to the wardens, the detainees. We spoke to everyone and got a complete picture. He got what he wanted to see or what his staff wanted him to look at,” Holden added.

De Blasio gave few details about how he’d improve jail conditions right now. Instead he repeated his $9 billion plan to close the facility and replace it with smaller lockups in every borough except Staten Island by 2026.

“The whole thing upsets me,” de Blasio said, refusing to give specifics about what disturbed him on the tour.

“I’m not going to bring it down to one thing – the whole situation must be profoundly changed, we have to get off Rikers Island,” he said.


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Did many 16 hour shifts. Come in at 7pm for the 11 to 7 and be short staffed and stay another 4 hours. Trying to sleep after that was difficult and then if I was lucky I only had to be back in at 11pm.

Did a few 24 hour shifts during 9/11. They are not fun at all. Thankfully local hotels and restaurants were great about providing rooms and food for whatever times we needed them. Working those shifts and then having a 50 or 60 minute trip home only to turn around and come back su+ked.


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He got what he wanted to see or what his staff wanted him to look at,” Holden added.

De Blasio gave few details about how he’d improve jail conditions right now. Instead he repeated his $9 billion plan to close the facility and replace it with smaller lockups in every borough except Staten Island by 2026.

“The whole thing upsets me,” de Blasio said, refusing to give specifics about what disturbed him on the tour.

“I’m not going to bring it down to one thing – the whole situation must be profoundly changed, we have to get off Rikers Island,” he said.

The crux of the whole thing.

Dems, like DeBlasio are more concerned about image than reality; he and his type dislike incarceration and find detainment inhumane, regardless of the crime. He's hellbent on closing Rykers, to the point of defunding it into inoperability, dilapidation and general hazard. Once issues like health and safety of the prisoners become an issue, the riots begins internally and the outrage begins outside. Various investigations and committees are formed, and all will come to the conclusion that the facility will need to be closed thus, DeBlasio and team achieves their dream of eliminating Rykers.....all because it represents incarceration.
 
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Who even gives a shit about Deblaze-one's opinion...lame duck and asshole that he is.

I think NYC's next mayor (likely former cop Eric Adams) will have a more realistic view of Riker's than some elitist pot-smoking communist shitbag current mayor.


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Voluntary gladiatorial games for early prison release.


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The staffing issues are unfortunately a nationwide issue. We have training classes every two months and can't maintain staffing. We arent allowed to do triples but doubles are the norm. and after 3 16 hour days I am ready for a break. Theyadded a 1000 dollar sign on bonus and it didn't have any effect!!

one of my co workers did 30 OT shifts in month.. yuck.

All my fellow brothers and sisters in corrections, be safe!!!
 
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Had no idea Rikers was NYC's main garbage dump in the early 20th century

Where New York dumps its trash: Rikers Island has vexed politicians for generations

By HARRY SIEGEL
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SEP 25, 2021 AT 5:00 PM

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Some reading for Mayor de Blasio as he’s finally been shamed into making a trip to Rikers Island this coming week, his first in more than four years, to see for himself the poor, nasty and brutish conditions there after an inmate tried to kill himself in front of state lawmakers who he tried to stop from visiting and 13 Democrats in the state’s congressional delegation called on the Biden administration to do more since “the city cannot be trusted,” and a federal monitor questioned whether the Correction Department’s “leadership possess the level of competency to safely manage” the jail.

“Prisoners will have the privilege…of serving their time in the finest and most up-to-date penitentiary in the United States” the Daily News reported in 1928, under the headline “Rikers Island Prison To Be Model for U.S.” once it replaced the out-of-date and run-down jail on Welfare Island (now Roosevelt Island).

A “Crime Clinic to Reclaim Prisoners, Not Punish, Is Planned In New York” read a headline in 1929. “The first of its kind in any country, the hope is that the city that leads the nation in population may also lead in crime reduction and humane and scientific treatment of the criminal (by) separating the sick sheep from the criminal goats.”
But by 1930, the news was that “Pigs, Dogs and Rats Battle for Control of Rikers Island.”

The island was being used as both the city’s main garbage dump and as an under-construction but already in-use jail, divided “like all Gaul” into one end for dumping trash and another for locking up criminals and between them “a jolly little garden spot and piggery” where prisoners under guard could “raise their vegetables and bring up their pigs in peace and content.”

But since “twenty-five years of dumping have encouraged a sizable swarm of rats,” the Sanitation Department brought in a hundred or so dogs that “perform their duty efficiently during the day as rat-killers and protecting men, but in the long summer evenings they hear the call of the wild and go forth in packs to prey on innocent pigs.”

When the correction commissioner complained about how the “wild, ferocious, homeless, friendless, vicious dogs” were a “menace to the pigs,” his counterpart at Sanitation replied that “it would be impossible for men to work on the island if not for the dogs…the most gentle friendly animals in the world who went about their business of killing a couple of hundred rats a day.” Without them, he suggested, “the rats would overrun the island and perhaps swim to the mainland and destroy the city.”

(A few years earlier, the island’s rats had reportedly cornered, killed and devoured Battleaxe Bill, an Irish terrier “with a proper fighting spirit and a hatred for the Island’s invaders.”)

If not for the trash that fed the rats that made the city bring in the dogs that slaughtered the pigs, most of Rikers wouldn’t be there. And after the Supreme Court in 1931 stopped New York City from dumping garbage into the Atlantic that inevitably washed up on New Jersey’s shores, the inflow accelerated.

Rikers Island, a mere 67 acres in 1654, had swollen to about 400 by 1934, with a fiery trash tower “looming above the prisons like a lava flow from some Mount Aetna.”

“At night it is like a forest of Christmas trees,” swooned the sanitation commissioner. “First one little light then another, until the whole hillside is let up with little fires” in what the Brooklyn Eagle described as “an immense mountain range of trash…infested with a rat population estimated conservatively at a quarter of a million (and) whose top is heaped each day (with) enough ashes, paper, discarded furniture and sweepings to cover ten city blocks twelve feet deep.”

There were still dogs there, and one of them had bitten one of the soot-covered “Tarzans” wielding scoop shovels and pitchforks to tend to the endless inflow of new waste. “When a dog or a rat that has been living on this stuff bites you, you get a rabies test real quick.”

Long after any hope of “humane and scientific treatment of the criminal” was forgotten, the island continued to do double duty housing the city’s trash and refuse, along with its prisoners, until Robert Moses prepared for the 1939 World’s Fair at the brand new Flushing Meadows–Corona Park, land that itself had served as a dumping ground until then, since he didn’t want Rikers and its methane stench as his backdrop.

If it’s too late for an old dog like de Blasio to learn new tricks, maybe there’s food for thought somewhere in here for our presumptive next mayor, Eric Adams, who’s vowed, quite literally, to build a better rat trap and who will soon inherit Rikers’ problems along with the city’s pencilled-in plan to close the out-of-date and run-down jail by 2027.
 
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Those of you who are LEO or Corrections Officers have seen this story before, when it's NYC, its just gets magnified.

The Left at-large thinks eliminating jails is a good thing, ignoring the obvious reasons for why jails exist in the first place, they're there for dangerous people who don't get along with others.

What the New York Times Gets Wrong on Rikers The paper’s latest editorial is full of analytical mistakes.
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Progressives have wanted to close down Rikers Island for years, viewing the shuttering of the city’s jail complexes there as a symbolic blow against “mass incarceration.” The editorial board of the New York Times, one of the institutions leading the campaign, argued last week that Rikers’s worsening problems of decay and violence are more evidence that too many people remain in jail. Unfortunately, the article’s analytical errors and unwarranted assumptions culminate in policy recommendations likely to make things worse.

The Times and the conventional wisdom that it represents have already won the argument, in many respects. Over the last few years, the city has delivered a number of the reforms advocates demanded. Since Mayor Bill de Blasio took office in 2014, the jail population has been more than halved. The New York City Department of Correction has dramatically scaled back the use of punitive segregation, also known as solitary confinement. The city has greatly restricted correction officers’ use of force. Teenage suspects and offenders are now off the island and in less restrictive facilities. And two years ago, de Blasio signed legislation that would shutter the island’s jails and replace them with a far smaller, borough-based high-rise jail system in Brooklyn, the Bronx, Manhattan, and Queens.

Yet despite these victories, actual conditions at the jail complex—which houses nearly 6,000 people, most of them awaiting trial—remain horrific. This year, 12 inmates have died in custody, including two men in the last week (though one was not technically on the island). Inmates fester in overcrowded intake areas for days before jail officers assign beds. Medical care and food are scarce. Violence among inmates and between guards and inmates is up.

But in highlighting these inhumane conditions, the Times editorial board misdiagnoses the problem. “New York, like the rest of the country, locks up far too many people for no good reason,” the editorial asserts. To its credit, the editorial board acknowledges the sharp reduction in the city jail population since de Blasio took office. But it argues that this doesn’t go far enough, costing the city millions that it might otherwise save. This last claim reflects a misguided calculation of the per-inmate cost of incarceration, a figure arrived at by dividing the DOC budget by the inmate population—but much of the department’s costs are fixed.

This diagnosis also ignores recent changes in the incarcerated population. Releases of nonviolent or less violent inmates over the past few years have left an incarcerated core that is more violent. Two-thirds of Rikers inmates face violent felony charges. The over-incarceration claim is not only inconsistent with the violent background of many Rikers inmates but also at odds with the de Blasio administration’s official explanation for why violence in city jails has gotten so out of hand: that its successful decarceration campaign has left behind a population of harder-to-manage offenders.

Such reforms are likely to continue. Last week, New York governor Kathy Hochul signed into law one of the Times’s recommendations, releasing hundreds of convicted felons on parole sent back to jail for “technical” violations of the terms of their release. The focus on parole violators stems from the charge that parolees had their releases revoked merely for minor violations. But the evidence for this is weak. While data from New York are thin, evidence from other jurisdictions tends to show that many incarcerated parole violators committed multiple infractions prior to revocation, were charged with new crimes that triggered the enforcement of a violation, or chose incarceration over an alternative. An analysis of technical parole violators in Tarrant County, Texas, for example, found that offenders under supervision averaged nearly three technical violations per month over 22 months prior to revocation; that 18 percent of offenders “were actually arrested for a new offense while under supervision, but for various reasons were not coded as such in the computerized case management system”; and that “close to 20 percent of offenders opted to ‘take their time’ when offered treatment or other alternatives to incarceration when facing revocation.”

The editorial board suggests that further decarceration could actually improve public safety outside of jail. To make this claim, the board relies on a single study associating longer stays in pretrial detention with higher recidivism rates later on. What the Times leaves out, however, was that the study found higher recidivism only for low-risk defendants. “For high-risk defendants,” the study noted, “there was no relationship between pretrial incarceration and increased crime,” suggesting “that high-risk defendants can be detained before trial without compromising, and in fact enhancing, public safety and the fair administration of justice.” Releasing these same individuals into New York neighborhoods will carry a significant cost to public safety.

A higher proportion of high-risk inmates is no excuse for jail mismanagement, however. That the share of the jail population at a high risk of violent misbehavior has grown doesn’t change the fact that the absolute number of such inmates has fallen. It should be easier to manage seven problem inmates in a group of ten than it is to manage ten problem inmates in a group of 20.

So why are violence indicators moving in the wrong direction at Rikers? The answer probably has more to do with the de Blasio administration’s reforms on punitive segregation and use of force, which have functionally handcuffed corrections officers and created a more dangerous environment for inmates and staff alike. The evidence clearly shows that as the city’s jails became less restrictive, its inmates became more violent. Between 2014 and 2020, for example, inmate-on-inmate violence jumped nearly 70 percent—much of the increase happening after the city scaled back solitary confinement. Last week, the president of the Correction Captain’s Association, Patrick Ferraiuolo, told the New York Post, “We’re almost at a point where [solitary confinement] is almost non-existent, creating a dangerous environment for not only staff, but inmates who are really just looking to do their time on Rikers Island without any issues.” Benny Boscio, head of the Correction Officers’ Benevolent Association, was more pointed in his comments to the Post, saying, “They’ve taken away all our tools and now we have total mayhem.”

It doesn’t require a giant leap to see how this change in the risks faced by defanged correction officers might be related to the staffing crisis—one-third of guards are absent on any given day—that is almost surely intensifying the violence problem. Many, including current DOC commissioner Vincent Schiraldi, have suggested that staffing shortages are driven in part by coordinated “sick-outs.” (That underscores the potential problems associated with strong public-employee union protections that make it harder to discipline officers who don’t come to work.)

Rather than grapple with the possibility that violence has worsened as the costs of misbehavior for inmates have been lowered, the Times lays the blame at the feet of bail-reform opponents. Because the bail reform that New York State enacted two years ago, allowing most nonviolent felony offenders to go free without posting cash, was ever-so-modestly “rolled back,” the editorial board argues, the Rikers Island population is “significantly” higher thanks to the incarceration of those “locked up simply for being poor.” The Times offers zero evidence for this proposition. It also ignores the empirical evidence showing that more lenient pretrial-release practices are associated with increases in both crime and failures to appear in court. The proportion of violent felony arrests constituted by offenders with open cases jumped by more than 27 percent in the first nine months of 2020.

De Blasio’s attempt to show superficial progress on the Close Rikers project has also likely contributed to inhumane conditions and violence in jail. In late 2019, just after signing the four-borough jails plan into law, the mayor pledged to close two jail facilities: the Brooklyn detention complex and one building, Taylor, on Rikers. “These two closures show that we are making good on our promise to close Rikers Island and create a correctional system that is fundamentally smaller, safer and fairer,” de Blasio said at the time. Not so. The closure of Taylor last year, in particular, has contributed to overcrowding for new inmates going through the intake process. In fact, the mayor actually reversed this closure this week, promising to reopen Taylor “as we speak.” This dizzying reversal is yet more evidence that neither the mayor nor the city council have thought through the practicalities of the four-borough jail program, which is already two years behind its original schedule of 2026.

Meantime, inmates are on their own.
 
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