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A "triple" is 3 8 hours shifts back to back. A "quad" is 4 8 hour shifts back to back. The Warden (or whatever his title) is providing taxis for them to and from home because he thinks they're too tired to drive-but not too tired to work a shift. When we were short in the feds, I would schedule my officers for 12 on/12 off, 7 days a week. Worked that schedule myself for a number of years, the longest stretch being 20 months at FCI Englewood, CO with the Cuban detainees. | |||
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It's hard for me to imagine any LEO, especially Prison Officers, to work not fully rested and alert. That's an accident waiting to happen, like falling asleep behind the wheel on a Semi. It's a suicide mission. The longest I've ever worked without stopping (literally) was 48 hrs iirc, and I got to the point where I could not function any longer (software engineering systems upgrades on a tight weekend schedule in a Navy server farm SCIF. My partner was still going when I just laid down on the floor and took a nap. I thought I could keep going just by keeping my eyes open and keep my fingers moving, but my working memory went 100% to hell, and I was literally useless on the computer. I remember the drive home was dicey, since I was so tired I wasn't really awake and far from alert. I just should have just slept on the floor overnight, got breakfast, and drive home the next morning. My buddy finished the job, he was one tough son of a gun, and one of the best IT techs I've ever known. He was also very fit, he ran and cycled long distances in the heat of summer. He was an Air Force Academy graduate and served a short time as a commissioned officer doing some type of work with programming fighter aircraft weapons systems or another. That dude was as tough as he was smart. He is still a good friend I try to stay in touch from time to time. All that to say, until that point I never really understood how quickly function can decline, or like me, completely disappear, with extreme fatigue. Funny thing was if we had not finished successfully by Monday morning, we would have been in a shit load of trouble. It was the main funds distribution and disbursement system for the US Navy Atlantic Command, so I get it. It's a good memory, but I was humbled that weekend, learning (again) you can't fool mother nature. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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So they are being required to work 24 and 32 hours straight through without any time off to sleep? I can’t comprehend how that is even possible to get to that point, or who would continue to be explored there under such conditions. I can’t comprehend why it is allowed to continue. Apparently people don’t understand the effect of fatigue on judgement and decision making alone. Unfathomable. | |||
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They don't have a choice. There is no replacement staff. Usually a prison officer gets in trouble for falling asleep on the job, but given the current circumstances, I imagine they might look the other way if the overnight officer closes his eyes and gets a power nap. I worked overnights in the prison way back. Half the staff had a full time (40 hours per week) day job, and they slept half the night at their "night" prison job. They worked 80 hours a week. They mostly got the job done, and closed their eyes for power naps during slow times. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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NYC jails boss admits ‘serious problems’ at Rikers Island https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/...ms-at-rikers-island/ The head of the city’s jails on Thursday acknowledged “serious problems” at Rikers Island, just hours after The Post exclusively revealed video clips of three inmates attacking another and a group of inmates partying inside a cell. Correction Commissioner Vincent Schiraldi said he hadn’t seen the disturbing cellphone recordings that were posted on TikTok but didn’t dispute their authenticity during an afternoon news conference. “The level of disorder here is deeply, deeply troubling,” Schiraldi said after being told what the videos show. “I’m not going to deny that there are serious problems here.” Schiraldi said work was underway to repair an unspecified number of broken cell doors in Rikers’ Robert N. Davoren Complex for young males, where the video that shows inmates dancing to music, smoking and drinking from large bottles is believed to have been shot. Half of the doors have been fixed, Schiraldi said, and he pledged to have the rest finished by the spring. COBA spokesman Michael Skelly said that no correction officers had been hired since February 2019 despite more than 1,300 resignations prompted by the triple shifts that officers are routinely forced to work without warning. “Don’t tell us after we’re working 25 hours…after we’re victimized by a brutal inmate assault… to suck it up and come back to work,” he said. Skelly also said that Schiraldi had increased his planned hiring by 50 percent — from 400 officers in February — in a tacit admission that Rikers was dramatically short-staffed. The City Council’s Criminal Justice Committee plans to hold an oversight hearing Wednesday on the conditions at Rikers. “I think the jails are in severe, severe, severe crisis. I mean, we’re seeing it every single day — hearing it from the staff at Rikers, the leadership at Rikers, lawyers for the people that are on Rikers Island,” Council Speaker Corey Johnson (D-Manhattan) said. “We need to understand what their plan is, we need to understand what they need to be able to make Rikers a safe place — because it’s not safe right now, for the folks that are incarcerated or the folks that are working there.” Councilman Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island) said, “The problem is that it’s not a surprise; the union and elected officials have been sounding the alarm on this crisis for nearly two years.”This message has been edited. Last edited by: wcb6092, _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Other countries around the world must be laughing at us (this just being another reason) for how weak we have become. Under the leftist traitors, we have become a nation of pussies in their eyes. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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De Blasio didn’t see inmates, guards on ‘sugar-coated’ Rikers tour September 27, 2021 https://nypost.com/2021/09/27/...ards-on-rikers-tour/ Mayor de Blasio begrudgingly toured Rikers Island Monday following immense pressure from other elected officials horrified by their own experiences visiting the problem-plagued jail complex — but didn’t speak to a single inmate, a rank-and-file correction officer or even glimpse a cell that houses a prisoner. “Today was not about speaking to the individual officers,” de Blasio told reporters at a press conference after his 90-minute tour. “Today was about the work we have to do and that’s what I’m focused on,” de Blasio said. He said he didn’t meet with inmates for the same reason. The mayor also didn’t visit any of the areas that house incarcerated people. Instead he saw an emptied-out intake area. Hizzoner previously resisted calls to see the deteriorating conditions at the 6,000-person lockup, insisting that he was focused on a five-point plan to reduce violence and improve living conditions. Union officials blasted the mayor for failing to even look at a cell, many of which have doors with broken locks putting the inmates at risk. “They gave him a watered-down, sugar-coated tour today,” said Benny Boscio, head of the Correction Officers’ Benevolent Association. “He did not go see any housing areas where inmates are housed, they cleared out the area. You could smell the paint, they’d just painted,” Boscio said. Councilman Bob Holden (D-Queens), who toured the complex last week, was dumbfounded by de Blasio’s “sugar-coated” tour. “That’s unbelievable,” Holden said. “When we went we spoke to the correction officers, we spoke to the wardens, the detainees. We spoke to everyone and got a complete picture. He got what he wanted to see or what his staff wanted him to look at,” Holden added. De Blasio gave few details about how he’d improve jail conditions right now. Instead he repeated his $9 billion plan to close the facility and replace it with smaller lockups in every borough except Staten Island by 2026. “The whole thing upsets me,” de Blasio said, refusing to give specifics about what disturbed him on the tour. “I’m not going to bring it down to one thing – the whole situation must be profoundly changed, we have to get off Rikers Island,” he said. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Did many 16 hour shifts. Come in at 7pm for the 11 to 7 and be short staffed and stay another 4 hours. Trying to sleep after that was difficult and then if I was lucky I only had to be back in at 11pm. Did a few 24 hour shifts during 9/11. They are not fun at all. Thankfully local hotels and restaurants were great about providing rooms and food for whatever times we needed them. Working those shifts and then having a 50 or 60 minute trip home only to turn around and come back su+ked. | |||
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The crux of the whole thing. Dems, like DeBlasio are more concerned about image than reality; he and his type dislike incarceration and find detainment inhumane, regardless of the crime. He's hellbent on closing Rykers, to the point of defunding it into inoperability, dilapidation and general hazard. Once issues like health and safety of the prisoners become an issue, the riots begins internally and the outrage begins outside. Various investigations and committees are formed, and all will come to the conclusion that the facility will need to be closed thus, DeBlasio and team achieves their dream of eliminating Rykers.....all because it represents incarceration. | |||
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Who even gives a shit about Deblaze-one's opinion...lame duck and asshole that he is. I think NYC's next mayor (likely former cop Eric Adams) will have a more realistic view of Riker's than some elitist pot-smoking communist shitbag current mayor. --------------------------------------- It's like my brain's a tree and you're those little cookie elves. | |||
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Voluntary gladiatorial games for early prison release. ------------------------------------- Always the pall bearer, never the corpse. | |||
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The staffing issues are unfortunately a nationwide issue. We have training classes every two months and can't maintain staffing. We arent allowed to do triples but doubles are the norm. and after 3 16 hour days I am ready for a break. Theyadded a 1000 dollar sign on bonus and it didn't have any effect!! one of my co workers did 30 OT shifts in month.. yuck. All my fellow brothers and sisters in corrections, be safe!!! | |||
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Had no idea Rikers was NYC's main garbage dump in the early 20th century Where New York dumps its trash: Rikers Island has vexed politicians for generations By HARRY SIEGEL NEW YORK DAILY NEWS | SEP 25, 2021 AT 5:00 PM
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Those of you who are LEO or Corrections Officers have seen this story before, when it's NYC, its just gets magnified. The Left at-large thinks eliminating jails is a good thing, ignoring the obvious reasons for why jails exist in the first place, they're there for dangerous people who don't get along with others. What the New York Times Gets Wrong on Rikers The paper’s latest editorial is full of analytical mistakes.
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