Seriously. And I can certainly do without the cookies every year and now I have another reason to boycott them.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Well, you can scratch the Girl Scouts off of any organization that I'll ever consider my daughters participating with. I don't want my daughters associating with cowards.

I am old (79)... I have spent my adult life through five years Army, four years of college, my working life and now, retirement as a strong Centrist.

Now, I feel under attack by the Left, categorized as a racist, elitist, war-monger etc. etc. As a result, I find myself becoming that of which I am accused!

As a result, for the first time, I have donated more money than I can afford to Trump and Conservative candidates across the country.

Accuse me of being a deplorable, a chump a baby-saver and you get my tag line below. Tragically, I am no longer a Centrist - shoot looters on sight!

ACB may well help decide the election, along with
The other Justices brutalized by the Left. Justice may well be served...

How long will it take for the Dems to realize that ACB isn't going anywhere for a long time? They can roost on their cancel culture all they want - it isn't going to change a thing.

Organizations that fold and submit to this cancel culture (Girl Scouts and Rhodes U) are not worthy enough to congratulate ACB or even associate her name with their ilk.

That sorority and the Girl Scouts continue to highlight just how "tolerant" the Left truly is.

As Megyn Kelly stated, removing and apologizing for the statement is the real admission of politicizing it.

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Originally posted by 6guns:
As Megyn Kelly stated, removing and apologizing for the statement is the real admission of politicizing it.

Yep.

There is a quote about what happens when good people do nothing, and it's not about sweetness and light triumphing.

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Originally posted by flashguy:
^^^^^ A strong argument for not considering KD sorority when looking for a society to join. Obviously, they do not take "sisterhood" seriously.

flashguy

Its just pure cowardice. We see it everywhere today in almost every aspect of society. People are terrified of the Twatter mob. Courage is in incredibly short supply these days.

You really didn’t expect them to stand for anything in the first place did you?

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by flashguy:
^^^^^ A strong argument for not considering KD sorority when looking for a society to join. Obviously, they do not take "sisterhood" seriously.

flashguy

Its just pure cowardice. We see it everywhere today in almost every aspect of society. People are terrified of the Twatter mob. Courage is in incredibly short supply these days.

I'm immune--I don't "tweet".

flashguy

Now the Dems are trying to demand that ACB recuse herself from any upcoming 2020 election issues that are inevitably going to the Supreme Court.

Yeah right, go fuck yourselves losers!

Let’s recall:

Attack ACB’s religion and family
Try to pillory and destroy Cavanaugh
Lynch Justice Thomas

What you put on the Mandala comes back around
You should have been careful in what you placed!!

So far... a major disappointment.

Supreme Court Declines to Block New York Vaccine Mandate for Healthcare Workers

When New York’s original vaccine mandate for healthcare workers was announced, it included an exemption for religious reasons. However, when the administration changed hands, Governor Hochul removed the religious exemption. A lawsuit was filed. A federal appeals court loss brought the plaintiffs to the Supreme Court requesting an injunction.

Today, the request from the 20 plaintiffs was rejected by the Supreme Court as referred by Justice Sotomayor who covers the New York region. Justices Alito, Gorsuch, and Thomas dissented and would have provide the injunctive relief. However, Chief Justice John Roberts, Amy Coney-Barrett, and Brett Kavanaugh sided with the liberal wing and denied the request.

Thomas, Alito and Gorsuch wrote in their 14-page dissent that Governor Hochul’s record in the case “practically exudes suspicion of those who hold unpopular religious beliefs,” adding, “That alone is sufficient to render the mandate unconstitutional as applied to these applicants.”

Unfortunately, the alignment of Justices Roberts, Barrett and Kavanaugh with the left wing of the court makes future constitutional appeals around the vaccine mandate look increasingly tenuous. Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Barrett have been big disappointments.

https://theconservativetreehou...-healthcare-workers/

She fooled most all of us. So did Kavanaugh.

If PDJT had to answer to DJT the businessman he would be fired over his personnel decisions and endorsements.

^
A lot of these issues vis a vis dealing with pandemic were run up the flagpole long ago (before any of us were around.) The decisions back then came down on the side of government power to deal with these situations as it saw fit.

So now that we have a pandemic, the courts are looking back at these precedents, and are abiding by them.

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A lot of these issues vis a vis dealing with pandemic were run up the flagpole long ago (before any of us were around.) The decisions back then came down on the side of government power to deal with these situations as it saw fit.

Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905)
A state may enact a compulsory vaccination law, since the legislature has the discretion to decide whether vaccination is the best way to prevent smallpox and protect public health.

The Revised Laws of that Commonwealth, c. 75, § 137, provide that

"the board of health of a city or town if, in its opinion, it is necessary for the public health or safety shall require and enforce the vaccination and revaccination of all the inhabitants thereof and shall provide them with the means of free vaccination. Whoever, being over twenty-one years of age and not under guardianship, refuses or neglects to comply with such requirement shall forfeit five dollars."

I wonder if it would have decided differently if the penalty had been more than a small fine.

Does this ruling justify being deprived of the right to work or an income?
What about forced vaccination? With an EUA "vaccine" which is admittedly experimental?

I'd gladly forfeit 5 bucks to get these jerks off my back!

Whether she is successful depends on whether she follows the law, not whether she does what someone thinks she should regardless what the law says. I'm all for criticizing this decision based on the law but just saying you don't like the outcome isn't ver insightful.

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Originally posted by DaveL:
Whether she is successful depends on whether she follows the law, not whether she does what someone thinks she should regardless what the law says. I'm all for criticizing this decision based on the law but just saying you don't like the outcome isn't very insightful.

What law?

Are you talking about the 1904 law in Massachusetts (which actually was a law)?
The Revised Laws of that Commonwealth, c. 75, § 137,
Or are you talking about Governor Hochul removal of the religious exemption, which was not passed by a legislature. It was her decree.

I find the Gorsuch dissent compelling:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/o...1pdf/21a145_gfbi.pdf

It's a tough job. Watchers write of her incremental approach, as "a moderate who prefers small movements in the law, not huge shifts". Personally, I see taking a lifetime commitment like hers as a sacrifice.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by DaveL:
Whether she is successful depends on whether she follows the law, not whether she does what someone thinks she should regardless what the law says. I'm all for criticizing this decision based on the law but just saying you don't like the outcome isn't very insightful.

What law?
...

I find the Gorsuch dissent compelling:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/o...1pdf/21a145_gfbi.pdf

I haven't read the briefs so I can't debate the law - I'll weigh in once I have.

The dissent makes a compelling moral argument but the legal argument is very thin.

To be clear: I think the NY mandate is absurd, especially because it does not have a religious exemption, and there's a real question whether it violates the free exercise clause. However, none of those things are sufficient to grant a preliminary injunction.