I saw that. Disgusting.

Even more disgusting are the writers, directors, producers, etc of the show The View.

Even more disgusting are those who watch the show and thus the sponsors who advertise and spend money providing for such.

They're all disgusting vile human beings. At best.

Selling ones soul for 20 pieces of Silver comes to mind.
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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Suspended for a measly 2 weeks. ... I guarantee if a white conservative had made similar comments, they’d be driven out of existence as any kind of commentator.

Word!

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Her actual statement:

“Let’s be truthful, the Holocaust isn’t about race, it’s not. It’s about man’s inhumanity to man, that’s what it’s about. These are two groups of white people,” she said on The View on Monday.

She continued: “You’re missing the point … let’s talk about it for what it really is. It’s about how people treat each other. It’s a problem. It doesn’t matter if you’re black or white, Jews … everybody eats each other.”

So... all lives matter?

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Originally posted by Jimmo952:
Cancel culture. The Left is now eating it's own. Sort of funny to watch.

Not "sorta." It's damn funny

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Originally posted by selogic:
BTW , that " Goldberg " thing is fake . Her given name is Caryn Johnson .

I doubt few people believed her parents named her "Whoopie Goldberg"

I watch The View every once in a while for shits and giggles. The most impressive thing about the show is how stupid these women are. You could probably add their IQs and still not have three digits.

Unlike Tom Lehrer in the 50s, she wasn't being satirical, she was being completely serious.

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
I don't think she meant what they are turning this into.

I do.

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Originally posted by Paten:

Jews are both an ethnic and religious group.

Years ago, I reported to a manager who had converted to Judaism when he married (his wife was Jewish). When he converted, did that put him in a different ethnic group?

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In other words, Goldberg is being chastised for not recognizing and accepting the probably most important and strongly-held tenet of Nazi ideology.

Very well stated. This of course is 100% correct.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
I don't think she meant what they are turning this into.

I do.

Just because somebody doesn't subscribe to the same beliefs you do doesn't mean their intentions are always bad. Assuming the worst of somebody just because "they're on the other side" is a good part of the reason our society finds itself where it does today.

You're doing the same thing the left did every single time Trump said or wrote something that was stated poorly or could be taken out of context. (The Charlottesville comments being perhaps the most [in]famous of those instances.)

I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt where room exists to do so--even when it's somebody with whom I normally disagree.

I agree 100% with the above post.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Just because somebody doesn't subscribe to the same beliefs you do doesn't mean their intentions are always bad. Assuming the worst of somebody just because "they're on the other side" is a good part of the reason our society finds itself where it does today.
You're doing the same thing the left did every single time Trump said or wrote something that was stated poorly or could be taken out of context. (The Charlottesville comments being perhaps the most [in]famous of those instances.)
I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt where room exists to do so--even when it's somebody with whom I normally disagree.

You would be correct if this was the only time she has stated something like this. Taking her past statements and views in consideration, I stand by what I said.

What she was saying was simple.


What the Nazis did was not about race, because Jews are not black. And racism can only be leveraged against blacks, and nobody else.

She said (between the lines), that what was occurred with the Native American people's was/is not racism, because it was about the land and resources.

In effect, no one can be the recipient of racism unless they are black.

That is what she means, even though killing a person for being "different" is a hateful and evil thing, it only is a special kind of hatred, that grants the victim a greater payoff in status, for no other reason than being black.

She is making the claim that therefore, black people are superior to all other people, because of the difference of their skin to any other.

All evil acts perpetuated upon all people, undeserving of the act* is equally abhorrent an act. Whether a single person to person, or many to one, or one to many, or many to many. It matters not. It is evil.

Putting any layer on top of that, due to "reason" such as, resources, ethnicity, religion, belief, gender, language, anything, other than them being human, is simply evil for no other cause.


*those whos actions intend specific harm(s) on another, can be understood to be "reasonable", for the taking of life. So defensive and even offensive actions can and are justified, but that is a complex discussion not applicable to this.

In summation, what she said, is a greater thing than the Jewish Holocaust, it is in fact all about the incorrect and insidious "Black Supremacy" movement, that is being forced upon all people in every facet of existence.

If you have any disagreement with that thought, simple try replacing "black and white" and all the applicable words used in any of the arguments of racism, especially where "white provide" "racism", "black disadvantage" et al.

I am a human, first, and equal to all humans.
If I can find equal agreement with another on that truth, then I can journey up to the top of the mountain of understanding of all things with anyone. No matter how steep, no matter how high, no matter how troublesome the ascent, all I need do is point to the base and remind. "We are both on the same mountain, and both have the same desire...", and we can overcome whatever obstacle there is.

If we cannot agree on the base truth, we will never make it very far before we give up for difficulty, or fall to our death.

I do not fear the mountain. But I hate the lie.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by selogic:
BTW , that " Goldberg " thing is fake . Her given name is Caryn Johnson .

I doubt few people believed her parents named her "Whoopie Goldberg"

I don't know about that. In that culture, it's not that unusual of a name.

The entire concept of "race" is a human construct that pre-dates the modern understanding of genetics and DNA.

Hitler is not the one that made all this up - a lot of it was the "progressive" eugenicists of the early 20th century. They believed that white northern Europeans, or "the Aryan race", were superior to all other "races". And those other races included southern European, Slavic, Persian, Arab, Oriental, Black, etc. They tried to find ways to physiologically measure and determine "race" but could never find anything that was reliable.

Many British and Americans with British ancestors believed they were Aryans because England was originally populated with Germanic tribes (hence Anglo-Saxon) and Old English is a Germanic language. And they believe it was their responsibility and authority to "manage" the lesser races using "scientific" methods. They invented mandatory public schooling to manage immigrant children and turn them into obedient worker bees, while sending their own children to private boarding schools that prepped them for Ivy League Universities and then jobs in the elite business and political class. They created Planned Parenthood to contracept and abort black children and sterilize black women. It goes on and on, but they were horrible racists. Many actually admired Hitler and thought he was doing the right things. They didn't welcome Jewish refugees from Europe into the US before and during WWII - FDR didn't want them here. The Brits didn't welcome them into the land that is now Isreal either.

It wasn't until Hitler invaded Poland, which started WWII and pulled England into the war, then the invasion of France that started turning the progressives against him. Once the true horror of the Holocaust was revealed, they quietly stopped talking about eugenics because it was no longer politically correct, but the institutions they founded kept going on and doing the things they were designed to do.

Yes, race is an illusion. The only thing that defines "race" are very small genetic differences and adaptations that affect things like hair color and skin color. There is no "race" gene and you can't determine "race" from DNA. By contrast, sex/gender is genetically based and an immutable characteristic of all creatures on earth with a spinal chord, and some without.

BUT Caryn "Goldburg" was 100% wrong to say what she did. 12 Million Jews and other Ethnic Minorities were murdered because of their perceived "race". This is what Hitler and the Nazis said they wanted to do - purify the Aryan race and eliminated the inferior races. It was ALL about race. To say it was not is flying in the face of everything we know from history. Just because their concept of race was misguided doesn't change their motivation.

Caryn is the one that "culturally appropriated" a Jewish surname. She is the one that is saying only Blacks and POC's can suffer racism, only whites can be racists, and only HER preferred "races" are entitled to reparations and privileges from affirmative action.

She can suffer and get fired and have no work in the future like they have done and continue to try to do to conservatives. Live by the race card, die by the race card.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Her first name is actually Caryn!!?? Whoa.....

well, it fits!

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
I watch The View every once in a while for shits and giggles. The most impressive thing about the show is how stupid these women are. You could probably add their IQs and still not have three digits.

When my parents stay within me, they turn the TV to ABC in the morning and keep it on for several hours, eventually The View comes on. Good grief...its an hour-long cesspool of bad information, rumor mongering, mis-truths, outright lies and ignorance. I get that its supposed to resemble a group of gals getting together and chatting about the days events and news, instead its a toxic brew of hate filled condescension and clique-behavior.

As the famous quote says, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

That said, I am glad she is being suspended. Because, for every liberal who gets a slap-on-the-hand for speaking their mind, 100 conservatives get "cancelled".

I understand about allowing people the benefit of the doubt and how they can misconstrue things, but she has a history of this and doesn't take into account how "race" played a part in Hitler's eyes. Hitler only believed about his "master race" and that is what/where the problem lies. Any other "race" had to be eliminated that did not coincide with his direction-white,black,etc.. With the evil that was in his heart, I wouldn't doubt he had a plan to destroy the Japanese and Italians he allied with, after they helped him conquer the world. Fortunately, we don't have to worry about that now.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
What she was saying was simple.


What the Nazis did was not about race, because Jews are not black. And racism can only be leveraged against blacks, and nobody else.

She said (between the lines), that what was occurred with the Native American people's was/is not racism, because it was about the land and resources.

In effect, no one can be the recipient of racism unless they are black.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by Paten:

Jews are both an ethnic and religious group.

Years ago, I reported to a manager who had converted to Judaism when he married (his wife was Jewish). When he converted, did that put him in a different ethnic group?

Nope. That doesn't mean their isn't a Jewish ethnicity.

Now she is threatening to quit because, of course, her ego is bruised. QUIT!!! Nobody cares.