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Ford Mustang GTD achieves sub-seven-minute Nurburgring lap

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December 10, 2024, 12:33 PM
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Ford Mustang GTD achieves sub-seven-minute Nurburgring lap
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Originally posted by trapper189:
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Originally posted by KSGM:
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These cars are naturally aspirated.
Thank you for emphasizing this. Though the European and Italian cars that the GTD set out to compete with are probably wearing turbos in many cases.

I’d bet it’s true in all cases for street legal production cars. The Viper and C8 impress me because Dodge and GM did the work and produced outstanding cars that are almost affordable. Ford hired it out and got an outstanding car at a price that says fuck it, just buy a Ferrari.


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December 10, 2024, 12:36 PM
KSGM
Many; not all.

So which cars in that top ten have forced induction, and which don't?

Also, do any have hybrid aspects, other than the AMG One?

And do any have a third pedal and shifter?
December 10, 2024, 12:42 PM
aileron
I had the good fortune to run 5 laps of the Ring as a passenger with Sabine Schmitz (RIP) and her well prepared BMW M5 Ring Taxi in 2010. I don't recall the time, but think it was mid 7's... and it scared the shit out of me. She made hauling the big V-10 M5 around the Ring seem like we were going to pick-up groceries.
December 10, 2024, 12:52 PM
TMats
Pretty effin’ cool


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December 10, 2024, 01:14 PM
P250UA5
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Originally posted by aileron:
I had the good fortune to run 5 laps of the Ring as a passenger with Sabine Schmitz (RIP) and her well prepared BMW M5 Ring Taxi in 2010. I don't recall the time, but think it was mid 7's... and it scared the shit out of me. She made hauling the big V-10 M5 around the Ring seem like we were going to pick-up groceries.


Frown RIP Sabine.
Was on my list & was really sad when she passed. Love the "I'll do that in a van" TGUK episode.




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December 10, 2024, 01:17 PM
DanH
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Originally posted by KSGM:
Many; not all.

So which cars in that top ten have forced induction, and which don't?

Also, do any have hybrid aspects, other than the AMG One?

And do any have a third pedal and shifter?


All of them have a paddle shift or sequential shift gearbox.

The Radical has a NA engine, but it barely qualifies as a "car" and more like a Can-Am racer certified for road use. All of the Lambos were either NA V10s or NA V12s depending on model, and the Porsche GT3s should be NA as well.

Only the AMG One is a hybrid.
December 10, 2024, 02:53 PM
KSGM
The involvement of Multimatic and the German driver takes a lot of the wind out of the "USA! USA!" sails, IMO. It's cool to see a domestic brand in that top ten, but It's arguable that the car itself, and certainly it's driver, aren't really "Murican".

Of the six drivers of the two Ford/Multimatic cars on the 2016 LeMans podium, only one was from the US. He was in the first place car at least. Another driver of that first place LeMans FordGT drove the GTD.

I see where the critics are coming from. The Yanks didn't exactly kick the door in and lay down an unexpected sub-seven lap. They hired some Canucks to build a car that they hired a Kraut to drive.
December 10, 2024, 04:49 PM
Prefontaine
Porsche does it much quicker and less expensive. What a nothing burger. Ring times are fodder anyways. More for the internet than reality. More for marketing than reality. This thing was only built for 5.0 sales.

KSGM is right.



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December 11, 2024, 07:18 AM
Blackmore
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Originally posted by P250UA5:
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Originally posted by aileron:
I had the good fortune to run 5 laps of the Ring as a passenger with Sabine Schmitz (RIP) and her well prepared BMW M5 Ring Taxi in 2010. I don't recall the time, but think it was mid 7's... and it scared the shit out of me. She made hauling the big V-10 M5 around the Ring seem like we were going to pick-up groceries.


Frown RIP Sabine.
Was on my list & was really sad when she passed. Love the "I'll do that in a van" TGUK episode.



RIP Sabine 5:42 "You need a good bra here"






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December 11, 2024, 08:23 AM
DanH
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Originally posted by KSGM:
The involvement of Multimatic and the German driver takes a lot of the wind out of the "USA! USA!" I see where the critics are coming from. The Yanks didn't exactly kick the door in and lay down an unexpected sub-seven lap. They hired some Canucks to build a car that they hired a Kraut to drive.


Blame NASCAR. The development leagues for American road racers are practically non-existent, so Ford used it's WEC/IMSA drivers (most being European) for development.
December 11, 2024, 04:43 PM
alreadydead
Nice video, thank you for posting


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