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The 2020 Democrat Primary
March 03, 2020, 01:25 AM
flashguyThe 2020 Democrat Primary
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
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Originally posted by KevinCW:
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
The long knives are out for Bernie. Beware the Ides of March...
Oh the Bernie screw job is on. Look at all the Biden endorsements. Watch how many (Pete, Amy, Beto, etc.) get promised jobs in exchange.
He's already promised Beto and Buttigieg cabinet positions...
As horrible as those would be, one hopes it does not come to pass.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth March 03, 2020, 07:08 AM
chellim1quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
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Originally posted by sdy:
Michael Bloomberg, speaking at a Fox News Town Hall in Manassas, Va., on the eve of Super Tuesday's pivotal contests, remarked matter-of-factly that he could ultimately win his party's nomination for president through "horse trading" and "deals" at a contested Democratic National Convention this summer.
Now we know this guy has absolutely no clue. With the endorsers that have lined up behind Biden it's clear that a lot of Dems have already decided that this boils down to the Establishment candidate - Biden - versus the insurgents' candidate - Sanders. A brokered convention was always going to spark a war within the Dem Party and it looks now as though the establishment/insurgent tension could well be driven through the roof before the convention. No matter what, the Dems absolutely cannot afford a brokered and negotiated convention without doing serious long-term damage to the party itself. No one's gonna do that just so that Bloomberg can be the nominee.
All of which is exactly why we want Bloomberg to keep on doing what he's doing. He can do
serious long-term damage to the party itself. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor March 03, 2020, 07:14 AM
TigerDoreBloomberg could just buy the DNC. They are aren't that strong financially.
March 03, 2020, 07:40 AM
Jimbo JonesO'Dork: Newly created office of Secretary of Overturning the Constitution
Buttigieg: Newly created office of Secretary of Diversity and Pandering to the Minority
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
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Originally posted by KevinCW:
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
The long knives are out for Bernie. Beware the Ides of March...
Oh the Bernie screw job is on. Look at all the Biden endorsements. Watch how many (Pete, Amy, Beto, etc.) get promised jobs in exchange.
He's already promised Beto and Buttigieg cabinet positions...
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March 03, 2020, 07:47 AM
sig sailorWith all the Democratic candidates dropping out and supporting Biden you know the DNC is trying to stop Sanders. Warren is not in that group because she may take votes away from Sanders, so the DNC wants her to stay in at least until after Super Tuesday. That's my take on all this.
Rod
"Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author
I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no.
March 03, 2020, 09:23 AM
sdyBiden has soared in the RCP betting odds
A week ago he was at 10%
today:
Biden 49.8%
Sanders 44.2%
Bloomberg 8.5%
March 03, 2020, 09:29 AM
220-9erWarren appears to be trying for a VP spot on Bernie's ticket but the longer she stays in the race, the less likely he gets to keep them from stealing it from him.
Another question they need to be asking themselves is how much stress can either of the old guys take? Bernie's already suffered a recent heart attack and Biden seems to be having a number of senior moments, even though he hasn't been burning up the campaign trail yet.
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March 03, 2020, 01:27 PM
Il Cattivo^^ That's not necessarilly an end game for Warren. She's still in the Senate, and if she looks like Sanders' pick for Number Two then she might be able to cut some interesting deals for switching her support to Biden or simply not being involved.
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Originally posted by TigerDore:
Bloomberg could just buy the DNC. They are aren't that strong financially.
He should be able to get it cheap, too. Until the election's over, no one can be really certain that the Dems themselves are listening to the DNC.
March 03, 2020, 02:18 PM
sdyWarren takes a shot at Biden
https://www.realclearpolitics....eet_this_moment.htmlLIZ WARREN: I want to congratulate Joe Biden on his win in South Carolina. I respect his many years of service.
But no matter how many Washington insiders tell you to support him, nominating a fellow Washington insider will not meet this moment. Nominating a man who says we do not need any fundamental change in this country will not meet this moment.
And nominating someone who wants to restore the world before Donald Trump, when the status quo has been leaving more and more people behind for decades, is a big risk for our party and our country.
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She has to know her campaign is at a dead end. Looking for VP w Sanders ?
March 03, 2020, 07:44 PM
Il Cattivo, a question if you're still checking in - would it make sense to retitle this thread as the Dem primary thread? We're pretty much out of debates, and the one has certainly bled over into the other.
March 03, 2020, 08:49 PM
chellim1Bloomberg is having a
really bad night.
Warren is also having a
really bad night.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor March 03, 2020, 09:05 PM
Balzé HalzéThe Bernie Bros are likely fuming right now. Warren is dragging down Sanders' numbers.
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March 03, 2020, 09:38 PM
Il Cattivo^^ Heh, heh, heh - in
Massachusetts, no less.
March 04, 2020, 10:54 AM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
PASig, a question if you're still checking in - would it make sense to retitle this thread as the Dem primary thread? We're pretty much out of debates, and the one has certainly bled over into the other.
I guess if Para is OK with that?
I will change it now.
March 04, 2020, 10:54 AM
BamaJeepsterquote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
I wish I was a gambling man. I'd love to bet $100 on the proposition that Bloomberg will be gone by next Thursday, and another $100 that he'll be gone eight days after that. Then again, I suppose he could surprise the hell out of everyone - including himself - tomorrow.
I would almost be tempted to take that action. I think Bloomberg stays until the convention. He has already said he set aside a billion and that is nothing to him.
Looks like I owe ya! Good call, you were right and I was wrong - Mini Mike tucks his tail and runs!
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams March 04, 2020, 10:56 AM
PASigIs anyone else a little bit bemused but also scared by how QUICKLY Biden went from near-death to the presumptive nominee in like ONE WEEK?
That DNC Machine is something to behold, that's for damn sure!
March 04, 2020, 11:41 AM
benny6This is the best case scenario, IMHO. The Bernie Bros will revolt over this!
What will be interesting to see now though, is if Bernie takes a payoff and supports Biden after the convention like he did with Hitlery. We'll be able to gauge how much voter turnout will truly be at Biden's rallies from here on out.
The Democratic party is truly fractured.
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March 04, 2020, 12:06 PM
HRKquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Is anyone else a little bit bemused but also scared by how QUICKLY Biden went from near-death to the presumptive nominee in like ONE WEEK?
That DNC Machine is something to behold, that's for damn sure!
I think it just shows how little Iowa and New Hampster, South Carolina matter in the whole scheme of things.
JMO the primaries are as much of a Television ratings scheme as they are true indicators of the vote results.
Primary system needs to be a one day nationwide deal, get it on, get it over with... But that won't bring in the weeks and months of TV revenue, news/editorial/entertainer show ratings, etc.
If the Demonrats could arrange a multi million dollar contract like the NBA with a network for exclusive access to the primary they'd do it in a second...
March 04, 2020, 12:59 PM
TigerDoreNow that it is down to Bernie Sandals and Crazy Joe, they have to keep debating. This will be comic gold.
March 04, 2020, 01:15 PM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
Now that it is down to Bernie Sandals and Crazy Joe, they have to keep debating. This will be comic gold.
It will be like watching two cranky old farts arguing which diner has better soup.
