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February 22, 2020, 10:34 PM
Ripley
The 2020 Democrat Primary
Bernie Sanders Goes Ballistic On NBC News Over Coverage Complaints

Bernie Sanders isn’t just raving mad at the latest debate. He apparently went ballistic on NBC News and MSNBC executives prior to taking the stage, launching into a ranting ball of fury over complaints about how the networks had been covering his campaign...

It's been evident that Sanders is thin skinned, defensive and at a boil most of the time. I would expect this to be exploited by those in opposition. Throw in his volatile Bernie Bros, his campaign could be easy to derail.

Unrelated, but I can't resist, Bernie busted flying first class --






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February 22, 2020, 10:36 PM
P220 Smudge
I agree that logically, Gabbard was probably their best chance. They bungled that in spectacular fashion and now they get to choose between two candidates that are arguably more polarizing than our President.

Jesus, he looks anxious and terrified in that photo. We need this wimp running the country? GMAFB.


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February 23, 2020, 06:58 AM
DennisM
An actual fucking Communist.

Is about to win the Democratic nomination.

For President of the United States.

Thirty years ago, actual fucking Communists weren't allowed to come to the United States without a waiver from the Attorney General.

Now, roughly half of a major political party is OK with one sitting in the White House. And maybe not just OK, but enthused.
February 23, 2020, 07:59 AM
sdy
FOR THE FIRST TIME:

A (Dem or GOP) candidate (Sanders) has won the popular vote in all 3 early states: Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada.

https://twitter.com/PpollingNu.../1231364805950345216
February 23, 2020, 08:16 AM
nhracecraft
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
FOR THE FIRST TIME:

A (Dem or GOP) Communist candidate (Sanders) has won the popular vote in all 3 early states: Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada.

https://twitter.com/PpollingNu.../1231364805950345216

FIFY Wink


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February 23, 2020, 08:16 AM
sigfreund
A few books about the sort of people Sanders and his ilk admire and the sort of society they would like the U.S. to become:

KGB: The Secret Work Of Soviet Secret Agents; John Barron
KGB Today: The Hidden Hand; John Barron
Special Tasks (murder and espionage by the KGB); Pavel Sudoplatov
The Haunted Wood (espionage in the US); Weinstein & Vassiliev
Spies (the rise and fall of the KGB in America); Haynes, Klehr & Vassiliev
* Mao; Chang & Halliday
* Reds (Communism and McCarthyism); Ted Morgan
* The Strange Death of the Soviet Empire; David Pryce-Jones
The Sword and the Shield; (archival history of the KGB); Andrew & Mitrokhin
The World Was Going Our Way (archival history of the KGB); Andrew & Mitrokhin
Alger Hiss: Why He Chose Treason; Christina Shelton
* Black April (the fall of South Vietnam); George Veith
Circle of Treason (espionage by Aldridge Ames); Grimes & Vertefeuille
* Iron Curtain (the “crushing” of Eastern Europe); Anne Applebaum
Why We Were in Vietnam; Norman Podhoretz
The Soviet Biological Weapons Program; Leitenberg & Zilinskas
A Spy Among Friends: Kim Philby and the Great Betrayal; Ben Macintyre
A Very Expensive Poison (murder of Alexander Litvinenko); Luke Harding
* The Soviet Tragedy: A History of Socialism in Russia, 1917-1991; Martin Malia
Bureau of Spies; Steven Usdin
VENONA: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America; John Haynes and Harvey Klehr
Trinity: The Treachery and Pursuit of the Most Dangerous Spy in History; Frank Close
Betrayal in Berlin; Steve Vogel
In Denial: Historians, Communism & Espionage; John Haynes and Harvey Klehr

* Most of the books listed are about espionage and subversion, but the ones with asterisks are more about Communist socialism in general. And although it’s a novel based on her personal experiences, the true classic is We the Living by Ayn Rand. I read that long ago shortly after Atlas Shrugged, but when I tried rereading it a few years ago it was so depressing that I gave up after a few pages.




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February 23, 2020, 08:20 AM
Edmond
What the hell happened for us to get to this point where being a commie is okay?

I blame the lame stream media.


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February 23, 2020, 08:43 AM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
It’s “Mensheviks versus Bolsheviks” for control of the Dem Party. They really don’t care about the Presidency this time around, as they know Trump can’t be beaten.

This is an excellent analogy of where the DNC is now. Bernie would actually lead them into the totalitarian paradise they desire, but they know he is too upfront about it and would deliver not just a loss in November, but a Reagan/Mondale kind of trouncing that would also likely cause them to lose the House and also lose more ground in the Senate.



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February 23, 2020, 10:02 AM
redstone
I am actually looking forward to the Trump / Sanders debate.



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February 23, 2020, 10:06 AM
6guns
Sanders will stroke out!




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February 23, 2020, 10:24 AM
slosig
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
quote:
Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
It’s “Mensheviks versus Bolsheviks” for control of the Dem Party. They really don’t care about the Presidency this time around, as they know Trump can’t be beaten.

This is an excellent analogy of where the DNC is now. Bernie would actually lead them into the totalitarian paradise they desire, but they know he is too upfront about it and would deliver not just a loss in November, but a Reagan/Mondale kind of trouncing that would also likely cause them to lose the House and also lose more ground in the Senate.

I’m good with that. Big Grin
February 23, 2020, 11:17 AM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by Edmond:
What the hell happened for us to get to this point where being a commie is okay?
I blame the lame stream media.

And the schools... don't forget the schools.
Public education is a socialist institution from conception and design right through implementation. This is where 100 years of public education takes you. It has only gotten worse since Carter created the Department of (Public) Education and made it a cabinet post. Prior to that, it was all up to the individual States so it wasn't as centralized and commie as it is now.



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February 23, 2020, 12:24 PM
sdy
RCP betting odds

Sanders still climbing

Sanders 55.2 %
Bloomberg 23 %
Buttigieg 11.9 %
Biden 9.1 %
Warren 2.6 %
Klobuchar 1.7 %
February 23, 2020, 12:26 PM
6guns
Biden is wondering what the hell happened? Big Grin




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February 23, 2020, 12:48 PM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
RCP betting odds

Sanders still climbing

Sanders 55.2 %
Bloomberg 23 %
Buttigieg 11.9 %
Biden 9.1 %
Warren 2.6 %
Klobuchar 1.7 %


Still early but it is playing out as I predicted. It does seem the Commie has a good chance (on nom).
February 23, 2020, 02:06 PM
John Steed
quote:
Originally posted by Ripley:
Bernie Sanders isn’t just raving mad at the latest debate. He apparently went ballistic on NBC News and MSNBC executives prior to taking the stage, launching into a ranting ball of fury over complaints about how the networks had been covering his campaign...

It's been evident that Sanders is thin skinned, defensive and at a boil most of the time. …
Sounds bad for someone with a known heart condition. Eek

Might be the answer to the quagmire the DNC finds itself in. Bernie is the front runner or even gets the nomination then suffers "the big one" and the DNC has to insert a sub, one the party elites agree on, of course.



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February 23, 2020, 02:20 PM
sdy
voter poll data from Nevada

Entrance Poll

18-45
Sanders 60%
Buttigieg 13%
Warren 11%
Biden 5%
Klobuchar 3%

45+
Sanders 20%
Biden 20%
Buttigieg 16%
Klobuchar 15%
Warren 13%

Exit polls

Whites
Sanders 28%
Buttigieg 19%
Klobuchar 14%
Warren 14%
Biden 13%

non-whites
Sanders 44%
Biden 21%
Steyer 11%
Warren 8%
Buttigieg 7%

Hispanics
Sanders 52%
Warren 17%
Biden 9%
Buttigieg 8%
Steyer 8%
February 23, 2020, 03:38 PM
sdy
https://www.breitbart.com/clip...sperate-to-stop-him/

Host Chuck Todd explained Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-VT) win in the Nevada caucus was upsetting to the so-called “Democratic establishment” hoping to impede his push to the party’s presidential nomination.

Todd said, “Sanders, indeed, won a smashing across the board victory. He won among men and women, college graduates and non-college graduates, liberals and moderates union and non-union members, people who decided early and people who decided late. In short, Sanders crushed it.”

“And in doing so, he may have crushed the hopes of a Democratic establishment desperate to stop him,” he continued. “The enthusiasm among Sanders supporters is matched by trepidation among other Democrats who fear that Sanders will not only lose to President Trump but will take down the House majority and any chance of winning back the Senate as well.”

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It would cause a major DEM crisis if they tried to stop Sanders w some backdoor maneuvers at the DEM convention.

DEMs are in a very difficult position because they let people like Cortez take them hard left. I hope the REPs are smart enough to take advantage of every weakness that gets exposed.
February 23, 2020, 05:00 PM
46and2
quote:
one of the most controversial, most unlikable candidates one could imagine...

...so devoid of charisma...

...makes Trump look attractive by comparison.

something about all of that seems so familiar.
February 23, 2020, 05:54 PM
stiab
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
Biden is wondering what the hell happened? Big Grin

Then he needs to stand in front of a mirror and listen to himself talk.


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