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What is the 1990 military fitness standard that SecWar Hegsheth is going back to?
October 01, 2025, 07:07 AM
ruger357What is the 1990 military fitness standard that SecWar Hegsheth is going back to?
I googled and found conflicting info and no specific 1990 standard. I found 1986 but even with that I found charts with different requirements.
I want to make sure I can pass it and challenge all of sigforum to do the same. We all get wrapped up in the latest and greatest weapons (I’m guilty) but being physically fit is the greatest weapon.
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October 01, 2025, 07:17 AM
ArtieSUm, no. I'd like to be able to pass it, but I don't believe that my knees, ankles, and feet are ever running 2 miles again.
It's a nice idea, but doing it then, kind of means I can't do it now.
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October 01, 2025, 07:32 AM
GustoferX number of push ups in 2 minutes, X number of sit ups in 2 minutes, and a 2 mile run. Numbers and time all vary with age.
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October 01, 2025, 07:35 AM
pedropcolaYea I was in from 85-99 and the run, pushups, and sit-ups is what I remember from fleet tests. What I really remember was chiefs wearing black dress socks and tennis shoes and smoking afterwards but they still ran it. Lol. The charts varied by age.
October 01, 2025, 08:02 AM
OkieTo get max points we had to do 20 pull-ups, 3 mile run in 18 minutes and if I remember correctly 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes. This was of course for the Marines.
October 01, 2025, 08:20 AM
pedropcolaI do remember the run max point times were fairly impressive paces. I was in good shape back then and routinely maxed everything but the run. I ain’t running 6:00 miles which I think was the max point times.
October 01, 2025, 08:22 AM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
X number of push ups in 2 minutes, X number of sit ups in 2 minutes, and a 2 mile run. Numbers and time all vary with age.
That’s what it was in the Army in the late 1980s, the last time I took a PT test.
One thing that I wonder about with the weight lift I see required today is the availability of props necessary for the various stages.
In addition to a mile run and a couple(?) of calisthenic type demonstrations, in the mid-1960s when I attended basic training, the PT test included a grenade throw, a “run, dodge, and jump,” and an overhead ladder stage. The last three all meant that there had to be a place where the props for all three were available: dummy grenades and a marked target area on the ground; barricades to run around and a pit to jump over; and the overhead ladder setup.
Large Army bases of course had all that, but what about the recruiters in Chicago? Where did they go, and not only for the formal test, but to practice and condition themselves to be able to pass it? What about an Army counterintelligence agent conducting background investigations in Iowa? Even when I was stationed in Falls Church, Virginia, the closest place that would have had all that in the ’60s was a long drive away: Do that every day? The switch to just the three fitness requirements mentioned above meant that everyone could practice and condition themselves no matter where they were stationed, and even on their own time at home.
It will be interesting to see how the new requirements work out, and what they look like five years from now when many other things will have changed.
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83v45magnaquote:
Originally posted by Okie:
To get max points we had to do 20 pull-ups, 3 mile run in 18 minutes and if I remember correctly 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes. This was of course for the Marines.
Marine AND Navy PFT
I'll never run 3 miles again.
October 01, 2025, 09:48 AM
PASigArmy PT Test was something like this as of July 1991 when I first entered
These are the BARE minimums to pass for age group 17-21:
2 mile run: 15:00
Pushups: 35 (in 2 minutes)
Sit-ups: 50 (in 2 minutes)
Not sure if this is exact but these are the numbers I remember. As a cook we were exempt from most unit PT as we were always at work at odd hours. You were expected to PT on your own.
October 01, 2025, 09:51 AM
RangeWalkerThe big difference then vs now? Nobody was lowering the bar so nobody’s feelings got hurt. You either met the standard or you didn’t and the Army was stronger for it.
October 01, 2025, 10:27 AM
P250UA5quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Army PT Test was something like this as of July 1991 when I first entered
These are the BARE minimums to pass for age group 17-21:
2 mile run: 15:00
Pushups: 35 (in 2 minutes)
Sit-ups: 50 (in 2 minutes)
Not sure if this is exact but these are the numbers I remember. As a cook we were exempt from most unit PT as we were always at work at odd hours. You were expected to PT on your own.
I could do the PU/SU no problem. Ran just over 2 miles yesterday & was about 5 min over that cutoff [9:30/mi]. But I'm also just a few months from 40.
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sigfreundUp until I retired and even after things changed significantly under President Reagan, there were plenty of physical fitness exemptions granted for a variety of reasons; none, as far as I know to avoid hurting anyone’s feelings, but exemptions nevertheless. One, for example, was one that a fellow CID agent used. When he was an MP years before he had been shot (unintentionally) in the knee by a fellow soldier and had trouble running. He was permitted to substitute a somewhat similarly-demanding bicycle ride for the run. Other people had various “profiles,” some permanent.
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RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by ArtieS:
Um, no. I'd like to be able to pass it, but I don't believe that my knees, ankles, and feet are ever running 2 miles again.
Same.
I could swim/bike/row the equivalent, but my knees have decided that my high impact running days are over.
October 01, 2025, 11:31 AM
ZSMICHAELquote:
Large Army bases of course had all that, but what about the recruiters in Chicago? Where did they go, and not only for the formal test, but to practice and condition themselves to be able to pass it
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South side of Chicago,particularly after dark.
October 01, 2025, 06:05 PM
jljonesquote:
Originally posted by Okie:
To get max points we had to do 20 pull-ups, 3 mile run in 18 minutes and if I remember correctly 80 sit-ups in 2 minutes. This was of course for the Marines.
Best I remember, the mantra was max the pull ups, max the sit ups and finish the run and it equaled a first class PFT.
Women’s standards was a bent arm hang, sit ups and a mike and half run.
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October 01, 2025, 07:36 PM
AllenInARquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
These are the BARE minimums to pass for age group 17-21:
2 mile run: 15:00
Pushups: 35 (in 2 minutes)
Sit-ups: 50 (in 2 minutes)
Not sure if this is exact but these are the numbers I remember.
I'm not sure about the run. Min for PU/SU was 42/52, respectively.
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October 02, 2025, 02:00 AM
wolfe 21I was also under the impression the new plan was for all combat arms MOS to have to meet the highest male standards. Im assuming this is regardless of age or gender...
I may well be misinformed on this, though. It was just a snippet I heard from an internet video.
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October 02, 2025, 07:21 AM
benny6Marine Corps standards back in 1990 were:
-3 mile run (18 minutes or less for a score of 100, max run time of ~28 minutes, any slower was a fail)
-Max sit-ups (80 or more for maximum score, don't remember the minimum)
-Max pull-ups (3 for minimum score, 20 for maximum score)
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October 02, 2025, 08:29 AM
limblessbiffquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Army PT Test was something like this as of July 1991 when I first entered
These are the BARE minimums to pass for age group 17-21:
2 mile run: 15:00
Pushups: 35 (in 2 minutes)
Sit-ups: 50 (in 2 minutes)
Not sure if this is exact but these are the numbers I remember. As a cook we were exempt from most unit PT as we were always at work at odd hours. You were expected to PT on your own.
I got out of the army in 2012 and that sounds about right to me. Although I saw a lot of people get away with failing time and time again. It wasn’t until we got deployment orders that I saw them all get chaptered out.
October 02, 2025, 08:58 AM
P250UA5quote:
Originally posted by benny6:
Marine Corps standards back in 1990 were:
-3 mile run (18 minutes or less for a score of 100, max run time of ~28 minutes, any slower was a fail)
-Max sit-ups (80 or more for maximum score, don't remember the minimum)
-Max pull-ups (3 for minimum score, 20 for maximum score)
Tony.
I'd be on the bubble for this one.
Ran just over 2 mi last night at a 8:30/mi pace
Def could handle the SU/PU part. Crazy that 3 is the minimum. As long as I could to the PU/SU first, then run.
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