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12v tools have come a long way. I have a bunch of Milwaukee Fuel tools, both M18 and M12. I’d say 90% of the time, I use a 12v tool. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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I see a lot of contractors, most have Dewalt tools for the majority of battery stuff. Check out a job site, see the colors. Plumbers seem to have Milwaukee, Pro press and big hole saws. Ryobi for the light use stuff. | |||
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If you're going to make the investment in quality, get Festool. Very few brands can compare. Milwaukee, Makita and Bosch all solid of the mid-tier, mass-market brands. Pick one and stick with it so your cordless devices all use a common battery pack. | |||
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I'm a big fan and customer of Ridgid Tools (from Home Depot). Lifetime warranty on the tools AND batteries if you register them properly. Early 2006 I bought a 24 Volt tool set. Fast forward to 2016 (roughly) and the batteries finally gave up. Called in a warranty claim on the batteries, they told me they no longer made 24 volt and would escalate my ticket. A few days later a brand new set of 18 volt tools was delivered to my house as replacements. Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six | |||
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How about this 18v makita impact driver - $170 on sale for $100? Limited-time deal: BOSCH GSB18V-490B12 18V EC Brushless 1/2 In. Hammer Drill/Driver Kit with (1) 2.0 Ah SlimPack Battery https://a.co/d/eEA169R "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Festool makes some beautiful tools, but their product offerings aren't nearly as broad as DeWalt or Milwaukee. If the goal is to stick to one battery type, it may not work for OP over the long term. | |||
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I use tools for a living, I've used DeWalt for a long time but recently switched to Milwaukee. Nothing wrong with DeWalt, but I prefer some of the battery powered Milwaukee tools. I'm in the process of adding the 12v lineup for my travel tools. The one downside to Milwaukee 18v versus the DeWalt 20V is Milwaukee tends to be heavier and larger. NRA Life Member Steak: Rare. Coffee: Black. Bourbon: Neat. | |||
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For homeowner use, I picked Ryobi. When I bought my first house in 2004 I was looking for tools. I think it was the following year the Ryobi came out with the One+ system. I bought a set. Back then they were blue with Ni-Cad batteries. I still have every single of those original blue tools. And have added many of the green ones. My list; hammer drill, drill, right angle drill, circular saw, reciprocating saw, jig saw, orbital sander, mouse sander, multiple LED lights, multiple fans, angle grinder, inflator, power inverter, router and shop vac. | |||
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I’ve had Ryobi, Rigid, Makita, used Dewalt and now own Milwaukee. For retirement I bought a set of Fuel. No experience with the pre fuel line. A couple of Dewalt tools may be slightly better than Milwaukee, but most Milwaukees are dam good. Home Depot Black Friday sale! Some kits over 50%off! P226 9mm CT Springfield custom 1911 hardball Glock 21 Les Baer Special Tactical AR-15 | |||
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The 18V Ryobi ONE+ line is perfect for homeowner or hobbyist use. I consider them the best of the non-contractor-grade power tools, plus they tend to have a much wider selection of power tools and related battery powered toys than other brands. You're not a tradesman, so there's no need to spend Dewalt/Milwaukee money for something that's used infrequently and not abused and lugged around to job sites. Even with Ryobi, for specific tools that do see frequent use, like a string trimmer you're going to be using weekly, you can still step up to Ryobi's upper tier brushless model tools, rather than their baseline brushed motor models. Also, thanks for the Karma. I have Zelle.This message has been edited. Last edited by: RogueJSK, | |||
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My opinion of brands: Dewalt (1st because some tools are made in USA) Milwaukee Metabo/Makita Bosch / Rigid Ryobi Harbor Freight I've had bosch 12v stuff for 10+ years & the only complaint I have is the chuck on 2 drills is unacceptably wobbly. 2 Drills, 2 impact drivers, 90* drill that gets used 2x per decade, the 5-head drill/driver that I really like & 2 of the LED area lights that are way overpriced at $50, but are extremely handy. I've only had 1 battery die out of about 10 & I couldn't tell you if it was the oldest or newest. 18/20V (It's the same thing) has caught up with the 12v in small-ness and the newer 12v stuff blows the Bosch 12v away in power. I have a bosch 18v hammer drill/impact/circ saw & it's gooed at most. Works fine, but underpowered & heavy vs the yellow/red/green/baby blue brands. I have Ryobi 1/2" impact, hedge trimmer & 2gal sprayer - all have been serviceable for the 5mos I've owned them & I got those tools + more batteries than tools for <$400. I would have spent that on the impact from DW/MW & I don't use it that often (1x per month or so). Ryobi is fine for light use stuff. My blower, weedeater & chainsaw are Ego. My next purchase will be a small drill/driver & impact driver - Dewalt for USA built, Metabo triple hammer for size/price/performance, Milwaukee/Makita if there's a major deal. Ideally, I'd get the dewalt impact w/powerstack & the metabo small drill & sawzall. I'm done worrying about battery compatibility. I did that & I still have 4 different platforms - Bosch 12/18v, Ego 56V & Ryobi 18V. The batteries last long enough that I can keep going with 1 or 2 longer than I'll ever need them no matter how many tools I have in that line. | |||
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Milwaukee has the best lineup of tools. Dewalt is a close second. Others are decent but may not have the too you want. It is advisable to have a lineup where you don't have multiple iterations of batteries. Ryobi is shit brand that I wouldn't have even if someone gave it to me free. | |||
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I currently have Dewalt 20 V stuff, and have been using deWalt for probably the last 10+ years. Before that, I had Craftsman, Porter cable, and rigid from Home Depot. I think that Dewalt is definitely better than any of those. My best friend had Ryobi, And I was not a fan. He switched over to rigid, and now he also has dewalt. My son-in-law has Milwaukee, and I like it as well. It seems heavy duty, but it also seems a little more expensive than the Dewalt. I picked up a Dewalt drill/driver set that came with two batteries and a charger, and a storage bag last week from Home Depot for $159. It’s going to be a Christmas present for my son! 10mm lays waste to entire cities, cuts through diamonds and will tear Superman a new asshole. - Parabellum Sex offenders can not be rehabilitated. It's in their wiring. They should not be released back into the general public. On the other hand they should not be warehoused either. I think they should be executed.....Spectre When someone tries to kill you, it doesn't matter how they are doing it. You're in mortal danger, and it's time to try to kill them back. Arc. ___ Kill every last one of these goddamned animals. We need a president with balls. We need leadership. We should be carpet bombing these barbarians wherever we find them, and we should be looking for them 24/7. We have to unleash Hell upon them. They understand nothing but death, so death is what we should bring them, wholesale.... Para I left "practical" behind many years ago. It was covered with my first Glock 19. (Fredward) | |||
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I’d probably go with Milwaukee or DeWalt. This time of year there are a lot of great specials for kits and a DeWalt or Milwaukee kit might end up running you less than a hundred dollars more than the Ryobi. If you don’t want to pony up for Milwaukee or DeWalt then I’d probably go for Ryobi. Ryobi really is making some great cordless products nowadays. The downside is that as their features and reliability have improved, their prices have also gone up and they’re now not as much of a bargain as they used to be. Either way, congratulations on the home purchase. Your generosity in sharing with the forum is also very nice. Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving! “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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I have higher voltage DeWalts, but for 90% of around the house chores the tiny 12 volt Bosch drill driver and impact driver set works just fine. The compact Dewalt 12 volt drill driver is great also, I keep one in the RV for the inevitable repairs. | |||
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Well you just as well have ask what brand of oil is best!
Do the google... snip: DeWalt’s tools are made in the United States, China, Brazil, the United Kingdom, Italy, and the Czech Republic. Tools assembled in DeWalt’s seven US plants have a label that says, “Made in the USA with global materials.” The components and raw materials for these American-made tools are sourced internationally based on availability, quality, and price. Milwaukee has 5 US plants and is expanding last I saw. Most or all corded Milwaukee tools are US made. The cordless come from scattered sources exactly like DeWalt. Mikita used to rule for the pros... got left in the dust years ago by Milwaukee and DeWalt, at least around these parts. Disclaimer: I'm an admitted Milwaukee fan boy through and through going back decades with thousands invested. 99% fuel / brushless versions now. If starting over? Flip of a coin... Milwaukee or DeWalt. Brushless versions only if expecting any real work. A few other brands like Rigid have some really good stuff, especially for the home gamer, just not my thing. Pick a color and don't look back! Leaving file large so you can hopefully read it... Collecting dust. | |||
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If it matters to you, Milwaukee, while having manufacturing sites in the US, seems to now be owned by a prc company (TTI). Not saying Milwaukee is a bad product. Again, I have the M18 and it's worked well to date. But I would consider a different brand for my next purchase knowing it's a prc company. From Wiki: Techtronic Industries Company Limited (TTI Group or TTI) is a Hong Kong-based, multinational company that designs, produces, and markets power tools; "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Nearly no cordless power tools are made in the USA, and regardless of whether some of their (generally corded) tools are still made/assembled in the US, none of the battery packs are made in the USA. These are almost exclusively made in China, even for upper tier brands like Dewalt/Milwaukee. | |||
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Understand. But I’m saying Milwaukee is an Chinese company. Vs dewalt which may be an American company whose product is made overseas. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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This is a good summary. I have Ryobi and Bosh. For work around the yard and home, the Ryobi are just fine. If I were a professional, I'd go Makita or Bosh. __________________________ | |||
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