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fugitive from reality
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At times my desktop is very slow to respond to basic commands and is constantly freezing when on web sites like ARFCOM and other gun boards. Sometimes it won't 'wake up' form sleep mode, and I have to hard reboot it. Once rebooted the speed comes back, but then starts degrading. The below is a picture from Specy showing my basic configuration. My question is what can I do to speed things up? I'm running the bare minimum of anti virus\system help with the free AGV product. This has alwats worked in the past,but isn't working all that well now. Any suggestions?



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I would go with a solid state drive
 
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If this is an "upgrade" on a Windows 10 computer, I'd see if it can revert back.
The chip (i5) looks like an older model that would be minimal at best.

I've learned my lesson from the past. When I bought a computer and use the operating system it came with, they were mostly trouble free.
If I got one that during it's lifetime had a newer OS installed, it was always trouble like you are experiencing.


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That's the 9th generation Intel CPU and should be fast enough for general use. I have a 4th gen i5 ( a bit faster than yours) and the system is quite fast with a SSD.

I'm with BlackTalon: replace the spinner with an SSD and you'll see an amazing improvement.



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Perhaps run a Benchmark test to check Performance.

https://www.passmark.com/produ...rmancetest/index.php

Without proper evaluation everyone is just guessing.
That is assuming the issue is hardware related.

However, any Hard Drive Benchmark test should reveal any discrepancies.
One of the best tools is CrystalDiskMark.

https://crystaldiskmark.en.uptodown.com/windows

Then IF that is less than acceptable don't just get a SSD that is SATA (like the spinning disk).
Get a NVMe disk.
 
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While it's running slowly, open up Task Manger; then you can see if you're CPU, Memory or I\O constrained.
You will also be able to see what task(s) are causing the issue.



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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
While it's running slowly, open up Task Manger; then you can see if you're CPU, Memory or I\O constrained.
You will also be able to see what task(s) are causing the issue.

I have to do this every time I restart my computer (1/month as I almost always use sleep). My Logitech mouse software can be a real hog. Right click-> end task.
 
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Originally posted by smschulz:
Perhaps run a Benchmark test to check Performance.

https://www.passmark.com/produ...rmancetest/index.php

Without proper evaluation everyone is just guessing.
That is assuming the issue is hardware related.

However, any Hard Drive Benchmark test should reveal any discrepancies.
One of the best tools is CrystalDiskMark.

https://crystaldiskmark.en.uptodown.com/windows

Then IF that is less than acceptable don't just get a SSD that is SATA (like the spinning disk).
Get a NVMe disk.


Am I thinking right here? A mechanical spinning disc HD will let you know that it's got a problem but an SSD HD either works or it doesn't? When an SSD fails, there's no warning?




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Am I thinking right here?
A mechanical spinning disc HD will let you know that it's got a problem but an SSD HD either works or it doesn't?
When an SSD fails, there's no warning?


To a degree yes.
The spinner will exhibit "smart data" but SSD's don't necessarily need the the same type of data.
You can however have utilities (IE: Intel, Samsung) that will indicate drive "life".
But is true there are fewer warning with a solid state device.
A spinning drive can deteriorate gradually but SSD's will maintain performance for most of their life.
Additionally, the biggest improvement is the access time parameter.
Further improvement is when the bus is PCIe over a SATA drive.
Hence, the NVMe is much much better than a SATA SSD which is faster than a conventual HD.
 
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I'm just curious, scuse me, but would running C Cleaner help? Assuming it's not a hardware issue. Thanks
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Lots of info to digest here. Thanks for the suggestions and info.


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I'm just curious, scuse me, but would running C Cleaner help? Assuming it's not a hardware issue. Thanks
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The only slowness for me has been with browsers. When the browsers are slow I reset the browsers to original settings and I am good again.

The only thing I noticed as being different over the past several months are PUSH messages from certain sites If I tell the push messages NO, then I do not seem to have any slowness problems. Never had an issues with Win 10, but with Win 11 it's been a real problem.
 
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If you did an in place upgrade from 10 to 11, do a clean install of 11 using a flash drive and windows media creation tool. Make an image of your drive before you do that though. I like Macrium free. Like others have said replace that spinner with an SSD.




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I run and monitor Task Manager as a general practice when I open up my computer. Especially during start up, no need to start another program while my CPU is red at 100%.

I'm thinking your CPU is being overtasked as I have an Intel Core i7 7500U @ 2.70GHz and it's not compatible for Win 11.

Since it still works and does not get bogged down, I figure I can wait and hope to get two more years before I buy my next one. Windows 10 will remain supported until 2025.



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Every issue of Windows has caused this with older computers not up to the current standards. It's not that the computer can't handle it, it's that the software upgrade enables a much larger increase in background tasking - a lot of it connected to sending back reports to Windows.

Like, Edge is now enabled, and can't be deleted by Windows. No option.

The final solution is to delete Windows entirely, but too many are invested and won't do it. Change is easy upgrading, moving to a less intensive platform that doesn't overload the hardware is above their pay grade. Like Chrome laptops - nothing more than a call home program which requires wifi to even boot.

Software companies don't make money staying static and every edition offered is another step towards forcing paid subscriptions on the public. Shared copies and such, which were common 15 years ago, are now extremely difficult to get working. You could say it's their right to protect their intellectual property, as long as you buy a new computer with the new software that is up to date, it seems to be ok. Except, Photobucket. Older archived picture threads on the internet are largely junk now because we trusted them yet didn't learn our lesson.

Those of us who refuse - Im running 10 on a Lenovo T420 - see it as a massive resource hog doing things I don't need or want. I might very well be better off with a tablet - but Android is no longer an option, either. This is what is fueling a shift to an open source program, the leading edge users who aren't afraid of a little command line tweaking are jumping on every year. Funny, tho, we did that when we were inserting floppies and you had to go in and write an instruction to get Lotus 123 to boot up. No big deal then. Now? Major deal breaker - we are so used to having our hands held.

We are slowly seeing the water temperature rise yet wont leave the pot until it's too late. The time to jump is now, ahead of the curve.
 
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