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Did a little more Ammunition stocking up today before California hits us with 11% surcharge tax on July 1st.

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June 11, 2024, 06:14 PM
PR64
Did a little more Ammunition stocking up today before California hits us with 11% surcharge tax on July 1st.
Stacked high and deep!

Crazy price on the 556, Wanted $700 for 1,000 rounds. Crazy.

I went with 9mm, 45, 357 and 38 special. I passed on the 556 and asked why it was so expensive. Was told because of the wars…


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June 11, 2024, 06:25 PM
P-220
WOW, that is crazy.


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Steve
June 11, 2024, 06:43 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by PR64:
Was told because of the wars…
Horse shit
June 11, 2024, 06:44 PM
Russ59
quote:
Originally posted by PR64:
Stacked high and deep!

Crazy price on the 556, Wanted $700 for 1,000 rounds. Crazy.

I went with 9mm, 45, 357 and 38 special. I passed on the 556 and asked why it was so expensive. Was told because of the wars…


Don't you have business next door to the Scheel's in Reno/Sparks? Wink


P229
June 11, 2024, 07:40 PM
PR64
Now that you mention it, I think I do after July 1st.

I do like to support my LGS though…


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June 11, 2024, 07:42 PM
bionic218
Yeah, "the wars" have it down to $0.45/round at PSA. Big Grin

And it sounds like California just created a huge black market for anything less than a 10% surcharge.

Fucking clowns.
June 12, 2024, 07:36 AM
ridewv
11% surcharge tax? That isn't in addition to another tax is it?

WV sales tax is 6% on most everything, but no sales tax on food, guns, and ammo.


No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride.
June 12, 2024, 07:55 AM
chellim1
quote:
And it sounds like California just created a huge black market for anything less than a 10% surcharge.

It's California retailers that will be hardest hit. People will buy it out of state when they travel.
Just like California fast food places. So many are closing their doors.
They only hurt Californians when they target California businesses.


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June 12, 2024, 08:07 AM
SIG4EVA
No other state in the US is doing stupid shit like that. I would suggest evacuating where you can buy ammunition anywhere and anytime you want.


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June 12, 2024, 01:27 PM
PR64
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
11% surcharge tax? That isn't in addition to another tax is it?

WV sales tax is 6% on most everything, but no sales tax on food, guns, and ammo.


The effective tax will be 21.25% on guns and ammo.

Oh yah, I forgot to mention that a $.50 environmental impact tax will be added to a gallon of gas too in July.

At least I drive a Mustang EV and charge with my solar panels...


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June 12, 2024, 01:39 PM
OttoSig
quote:
Originally posted by PR64:
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
11% surcharge tax? That isn't in addition to another tax is it?

WV sales tax is 6% on most everything, but no sales tax on food, guns, and ammo.


The effective tax will be 21.25% on guns and ammo.

Oh yah, I forgot to mention that a $.50 environmental impact tax will be added to a gallon of gas too in July.

At least I drive a Mustang EV and charge with my solar panels...


Aren't they trying to Tax EV drivers by the mile as well?

Bunch of dumbasses if you ask me.




10 years to retirement! Just waiting!
June 12, 2024, 01:45 PM
ridewv
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
quote:
Originally posted by PR64:
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
11% surcharge tax? That isn't in addition to another tax is it?

WV sales tax is 6% on most everything, but no sales tax on food, guns, and ammo.


The effective tax will be 21.25% on guns and ammo.

Oh yah, I forgot to mention that a $.50 environmental impact tax will be added to a gallon of gas too in July.

At least I drive a Mustang EV and charge with my solar panels...


Aren't they trying to Tax EV drivers by the mile as well?

Bunch of dumbasses if you ask me.


Aren't who trying to tax EV drivers by the mile? Cali? Sounds like a good idea to me.


No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride.
June 12, 2024, 01:49 PM
OttoSig
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
Aren't who trying to tax EV drivers by the mile? Cali? Sounds like a good idea to me.


Several states are exploring it, can you tell me why you think its a good idea?




10 years to retirement! Just waiting!
June 12, 2024, 01:49 PM
PR64
If they got rid of the $175 EV registration fee the milage tax would work in my favor. I'm retired and don't drive but about 2,500 miles a year or less.

The problem with the milage tax is how do they track it if you are driving in a different state? You know they will tax you on that milage too.

Tax, Tax, Tax! Governments favorite thing Mad


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June 12, 2024, 01:58 PM
HRK
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
Aren't who trying to tax EV drivers by the mile? Cali? Sounds like a good idea to me.


Link on CA Mile Tax
June 12, 2024, 02:49 PM
echidna
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:

Aren't they trying to Tax EV drivers by the mile as well?


Already taxed, but not by the mile: they collect a special fee yearly at registration time. Per my calculations it roughly matches what a driver of reasonably fuel-efficient car with average yearly mileage would pay in gas taxes in one year.
June 12, 2024, 03:23 PM
smschulz
Road Trip. Smile
June 12, 2024, 05:01 PM
ridewv
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
Aren't who trying to tax EV drivers by the mile? Cali? Sounds like a good idea to me.


Several states are exploring it, can you tell me why you think its a good idea?



Because it would be easier than trying to collect tax by the KW used, but just as long as electric vehicles contribute their fair share of road tax I don't care how it's done.


No car is as much fun to drive, as any motorcycle is to ride.
June 12, 2024, 05:32 PM
OttoSig
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
quote:
Originally posted by ridewv:
Aren't who trying to tax EV drivers by the mile? Cali? Sounds like a good idea to me.


Several states are exploring it, can you tell me why you think its a good idea?



Because it would be easier than trying to collect tax by the KW used, but just as long as electric vehicles contribute their fair share of road tax I don't care how it's done.


I see, I’m all for fair share but taxing per mile, when one already pays income tax, which should go to infrastructure, plus the yearly tax that has been mentioned, another tax PER MILE seems excessive.

It seems akin to taxing ICE users per mile for carbon emission. Just seems like a slippery slope that could be turned on gas burners in a heart beat.

Then again I think paying tolls are a form of double taxation.




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June 12, 2024, 07:49 PM
PR64
I see, I’m all for fair share but taxing per mile, when one already pays income tax, which should go to infrastructure, plus the yearly tax that has been mentioned, another tax PER MILE seems excessive.

It seems akin to taxing ICE users per mile for carbon emission. Just seems like a slippery slope that could be turned on gas burners in a heart beat.

Then again I think paying tolls are a form of double taxation.[/QUOTE]

My wonderful state is adding a 50 cent per gallon environmental tax in July…


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