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MS-13 doesn't fear Trump, rival gangs or the police - but they are terrified of La Sombra Negra
August 02, 2017, 04:13 PM
SigmanicMS-13 doesn't fear Trump, rival gangs or the police - but they are terrified of La Sombra Negra
It's hard to condone vigilantism, but it's also hard to argue with success. I am glad that there's an effective counter out there to the useless gang thugs. Although they don't seem to have set up shop here....yet. I wonder if sanctuary city status would apply to these folks too?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2...la-sombra-negra.htmlAugust 02, 2017, 04:45 PM
ChicagoSigManShould we start a SigForum chapter?
August 02, 2017, 04:46 PM
H&K-Guyquote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Should we start a SigForum chapter?
Maybe if we fight off the scourge that is Canada, first. Priorities, 'n' stuff.
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August 02, 2017, 04:52 PM
arfmelNo asylum for MS13 members. Let their bad asses fight it out with La Sombra Negra in central america and may-hee-co.
August 02, 2017, 05:16 PM
StramboI had a similar thought watching a section on Tucker Carlson where he went down there. El Salvador is a failed state due to MS-13. They should be wiped out. Their justice system is incapable of ever handling the situation. Their government should declare war on MS-13 (and I don't mean metaphorical war like the "war on drugs" or even the "war on terror").
Actual war, clearly define the enemy, conduct military operations to kill/capture/destroy them. Seek international assistance in this war in the form of trainers as well as logistical and surveillance support. Keep going until the enemy is eliminated or...they surrender. Beef up the police and justice system while the war is being fought so they can take over at the end.
Other nations, refuse to grant asylum to any MS-13 members/refugees (or if your heart bleeds so much, let them in...good luck with that-I'm talking to you Canada). We need our wall finished ASAP to keep them out.
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https://preparefit.ck.page August 02, 2017, 05:21 PM
downtownvquote:
Originally posted by arfmel:
fight it out with La Sombra Negra in central america and may-hee-co.
Does that translate into a sleeping Negroe?
August 02, 2017, 05:23 PM
sigmonkeyquote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Should we start a SigForum chapter?
Nunca sabes ...
"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! August 02, 2017, 05:45 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
Does that translate into a sleeping Negroe?
The Black Shadow
August 02, 2017, 05:51 PM
downtownvquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
Does that translate into a sleeping Negroe?
The Black Shadow
Soory my Spanish is a bit rusty, kinda the same thing,no?
August 02, 2017, 05:56 PM
VBVAGUYBe nice to know if members of the group were senior citizens, farmers, etc people no one would expect. God Bless
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August 02, 2017, 06:01 PM
P220 SmudgeThe Shadow knows.
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August 02, 2017, 06:02 PM
jbcummingsFor what it's worth, the Wikipedia entry for these guys goes like so:
quote:
The Sombra Negra (Spanish for "Black Shadow"), also known as El Clan de Planta ("The Plant Clan"), are (as of 2014)[1] death squad groups based in El Salvador, allegedly composed mostly of police and military personnel, that target criminals and gang members for vigilante justice.[2] The name first appeared around December 1989 in the Department of San Miguel. By April 1995, the group stated that it had killed 17 people, claiming that the dead were criminals or members of gangs.[3] Recent years[when?] have also seen increasing accusations of continuing death squad activity targeting the Salvadoran political opposition and members of the political and social left.[citation needed] These vigilante groups are originally based in El Salvador and are not under the official jurisdiction of the government of El Salvador, which can be easily confused. Many Sombra Negra and/or death squads that are caught are incarcerated in separate prisons for their own safety.[citation needed]
Almost sounds like good guys to me.
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August 02, 2017, 06:15 PM
FN in MTquote:
Originally posted by jbcummings:
For what it's worth, the Wikipedia entry for these guys goes like so:
quote:
The Sombra Negra (Spanish for "Black Shadow"), also known as El Clan de Planta ("The Plant Clan"), are (as of 2014)[1] death squad groups based in El Salvador, allegedly composed mostly of police and military personnel, that target criminals and gang members for vigilante justice.[2] The name first appeared around December 1989 in the Department of San Miguel. By April 1995, the group stated that it had killed 17 people, claiming that the dead were criminals or members of gangs.[3] Recent years[when?] have also seen increasing accusations of continuing death squad activity targeting the Salvadoran political opposition and members of the political and social left.[citation needed] These vigilante groups are originally based in El Salvador and are not under the official jurisdiction of the government of El Salvador, which can be easily confused. Many Sombra Negra and/or death squads that are caught are incarcerated in separate prisons for their own safety.[citation needed]
Almost sounds like good guys to me.
Wonder if they need ammo....I'd donate.
August 02, 2017, 06:39 PM
mbinkyTaking a page from the guys who fought Escobar, Los Pepes.
August 02, 2017, 07:33 PM
BMRWe should send our military in to kill the little tatted up gnomes where they stand. And no, I don't think posse comitatus would apply. They are foreign invaders and the military's first duty is to repel foreign invaders.
August 02, 2017, 07:44 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by BMR:
We should send our military in to kill the little tatted up gnomes where they stand. And no, I don't think posse comitatus would apply. They are foreign invaders and the military's first duty is to repel foreign invaders.
This is about MS-13 in El Salvador, not in the US. So we would have to invade El Salvador first.
August 02, 2017, 07:46 PM
olfuzzyquote:
Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
The Shadow knows.
Haven't heard that in a looonnng time
August 02, 2017, 07:52 PM
BMRquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by BMR:
We should send our military in to kill the little tatted up gnomes where they stand. And no, I don't think posse comitatus would apply. They are foreign invaders and the military's first duty is to repel foreign invaders.
This is about MS-13 in El Salvador, not in the US. So we would have to invade El Salvador first.
You are correct, but hit them on 2 fronts, our military takes them out here in the US and gives them reason to fear Trump.
August 03, 2017, 05:40 AM
egregorequote:
It's hard to condone vigilantism ...
Here, where we have the rule of law, yes. Down there, where they essentially have no police (and the ones they do have - that have not been frightened off or killed - are as corrupt as the crooks), well, whatever it takes.
August 03, 2017, 08:11 AM
limblessbiffThey don't fear trump because trump hasn't even done anything yet. And yet being the key word