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I stumbled across these two awhile back. Although some of their ideals and writing leave a lot to be desired, it's a great story of someone doing this sort of thing properly. Two Girls Do America's Great Loop and Atlantic Crossing | |||
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First thing I thought of while reading this was the book "And The Sea Will Tell" by Vincent Bugliosi. -------------------------------------—————— ————————--Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even, usually, surpassing knowledge(E.J.Potter, A.K.A. The Michigan Madman) | |||
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I took great relish in showing this story to my lovely bride. For years she has harbored the romantic dream of retiring, selling our possessions, purchasing a sea going craft, and sailing the eastern coastline. Of course, being the practical, non-romantic type I have explained to her that I din't think it was a very worthwhile endeavor. Our sailing experience is limited to piloting a Hobie craft for about an hour at a Sandals resort, but she insists we could take a boating safety course, like that would prepare us. I told her that if we did it, the news article written about it would end with the line "...and their bodies were never recovered." | |||
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Maybe they hit a Navy ship. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Jimmy123x, is that you? הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Nope. If I was Jimmy, it would be the Navy ship hit them. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Gilligan realized his dream and sailed off with Ginger......on a three hour tour. I remember being young, idealistic, happy, and dumb but going out on the water is dangerous, especially the ocean. No place for stupidity, inexperience, booze, or whatever. Not the place for people that think having a big heart solves all problems, For their own good I hope the Coast Guard denies them access to anything wet. I don't know but will bet they have no plans or intentions to salvage the boat and will leave it there. Sorry for being so pessimistic but that's how I feel. I hope the company that does the salvage attaches to their GoFundMe account. | |||
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That's actually quite doable in a craft like that featured in this story. We purchased a Pearson P30 for that purpose. Took ASA 101 and 103 courses. The plan was to cruise the Great Lakes. Maybe the St. Lawrence Seaway out to the Atlantic and down the Intracoastal Waterway. Maybe through Chicago and down the Mississippi. The Grand Plan was incremental exposure to the cruising life, meanwhile day sailing and buoy racing. The day sailing and buoy racing went well. The incremental exposure to the cruising life: Not so much. We spent three nights on the boat in her slip. That was all it took for us to figure out we'd go stir crazy being confined to that small a space for that kind of time. We sold the boat four years ago. $3500/year in fixed expenses (slip fees, haul-out, winter storage, spring splash), plus maintenance and repair expenses were more than we could justify. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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I have heard the old saying that, "the best days of boat ownership are the day you buy it and the day you sell it!" Mike __________________________ "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy." - Benjamin Franklin | |||
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Mother Ocean and King Neptune are very unforgiving when it comes to incompetence. | |||
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I feel bad for them but it sound like they listened to one too many buffett songs | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
They may take solace from a quote I shared recently from Winston Churchill
Wrecking that boat might be the luckiest thing that could have happened. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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As a long time sailor, I have seen my share of stupid on the water, but holy crap these two were stupid on land and sea. Please don't let them get in the air. Rod "Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no. | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
I spent the first half of my life on the water. How do you hit something hard enough with a Columbia 28 to sink it? We had people run boats that size aground all the damned time and we just pulled them off. Hell, one of my neighbors took Malabar III into Old Bay Rock in Mt. Hope Bay under full sail and just bounced off. My uncle ran his Bristol 27 aground at least once, I know because I was on it. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
A $5,000 Columbia 28? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Savor the limelight |
With what may very well have been 49 year old bolts holding the keel on? | |||
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I guess that's the only thing that makes any sense. Snap the keep off, and water intrudes through the bolt holes. My recollection of fiberglass boats built by decent builders back then is that they are basically indestructible. They may look like shit, but they last for ever. Doing some internet searching, they may have had wood core and some wood framing around the mast step and keelson, and when that rots from water intrusion, much of the structural stability of the hull is lost. Combine that with rusted keel bolts and I guess you have a recipe for disaster. I am more familiar with the heavy, full keel, solid fiberglass (no core) hulls that were common in the early '70s. Those things would take a pounding. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Bless the folks that saved these fools. I spent years working on the North Atlantic and have seen lots of disasters on the water. Most of the time it is inexperienced 'summer sailors' that get in trouble. It is pretty important to know much water is under the hull. I have seen both experienced and novices make catastrophic miscalculations though. In this case no one got lost. They are very lucky and should consider a different lifestyle.. I M O.... | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Great way to garner sympathy and end up with 100K in a GFM account. | |||
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IIRC Beteneau had some keep issues not too long ago and a few boats were lost | |||
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