Could this be the start of something big? Ruth Ginsberg...(“Infection” this time 7/14/20)....
Well, technically Supreme Court Justices weren't supposed to be technically calculating political animals. Technically. Then John Marshall promptly put the kibosh on that idea just because he thought Thomas Jefferson was an asshole.
January 17, 2019, 05:42 PM
Oz_Shadow
Some of you might find the "Switch in Time that Saved Nine" story interesting.
They knew what they were doing when they made them life appointments and I’m glad they did. There is a lot of material written on alternatives and they all stink.
Bottom line, it’s human life, everything has flaws. There is no perfect system and the framers knew that. The decided, and rightly so imo, that life appointments were the best of imperfect ideas.
January 17, 2019, 07:29 PM
Gustofer
They also couldn't have imagined the state of medical care 240 years later. Back in them days, you died rather quickly from pancreatic, colon, and lung cancer. Folks didn't hang on by their fingertips. They croaked.
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January 17, 2019, 07:35 PM
sigfreund
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Originally posted by Gustofer: Back in them days, you died rather quickly from pancreatic, colon, and lung cancer.
From what I know of the subject, cancer in general was an uncommon cause of death then. Lung cancer in particular was rare until cigarettes became popular in the twentieth century. Other forms of cancer were not unknown, but most deaths resulted from other diseases that are now preventable or treatable to some degree. You’re right, though, that it was uncommon for people suffering from serious diseases to hang on for long periods.
Added: And part of the reason people with serious diseases didn’t survive for long 200+ years ago was because of the horrible health care available. George Washington, for example, was essentially bled to death by his doctors. It’s also not necessary to go back that far. President McKinley was another victim of horrendous medical practices in 1901. One medical analysis I read said he would have probably survived if he’d just been left alone.This message has been edited. Last edited by: sigfreund,
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January 18, 2019, 03:46 PM
justjoe
Website Lucianne, which is generally very reliable-- and is citing Fox-- is reporting that Ginsberg has contracted pneumonia and will retire this month.
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January 18, 2019, 04:29 PM
chellim1
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They knew what they were doing when they made them life appointments and I’m glad they did. There is a lot of material written on alternatives and they all stink.
Bottom line, it’s human life, everything has flaws. There is no perfect system and the framers knew that. The decided, and rightly so imo, that life appointments were the best of imperfect ideas.
Yeah, well... I favor term limits. For President: (2) 4 year terms For Congress: 12 years, which would be 2 Senate terms or 6 House terms For SCOTUS: 20 or maybe 25 years. It's long enough.
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January 21, 2019, 10:54 AM
braillediver
Just a matter of time really.
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Fox & Friends Apologizes for Accidental Graphic Saying Ruth Bader Ginsburg is Dead
It's not like the caption is going to be proven wrong.
True, but one can catch all kinds of hell for jumping the gun.
January 21, 2019, 11:44 AM
nhtagmember
Monty Python did it best
I'm not dead yet
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January 21, 2019, 11:44 AM
jljones
Even if Trump is a one term President, three SCOTUS justices in one term will set the left back more than 50 years on pushing their agenda.
It truly is the worst thing that could have happened to them. Trump is just living at an address. Constitutional Justice appointments live in their head for the rest of their lives.
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January 21, 2019, 11:46 AM
Sailor1911
They were just trying to avoid having to rush to prepare it at the last minute! ;-)
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January 21, 2019, 11:52 AM
mcrimm
Fox: "OK, we're ready on our end."
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January 21, 2019, 11:52 AM
TigerDore
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Originally posted by braillediver: Just a matter of time really.
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Fox & Friends Apologizes for Accidental Graphic Saying Ruth Bader Ginsburg is Dead
Instead of apologizing, they should demand that the DC Medical Examiner's office prove them wrong.
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January 21, 2019, 11:52 AM
DennisM
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo: Well, technically Supreme Court Justices weren't supposed to be technically calculating political animals. Technically. Then John Marshall promptly put the kibosh on that idea just because he thought Thomas Jefferson was an asshole.
RBG and her ilk are no John Marshalls. He was a hard-line defender of property rights and during his tenure on the court the whole concept of "judicial review" was largely applied to disputes involving individual rights.
He and Jefferson were at frequent odds even before he was appointed to the court, but the "political" aspect of his decisions were basically nil compared to the judicial activism seen in recent years.
January 21, 2019, 12:07 PM
Il Cattivo
Liberals don't try to be like anyone, their bread and butter is "capturing institutions". Did someone once do something for what may have been the right reason? Then for liberals it's just another paragraph that should've been in Saul Alinsky's book because it teaches them about what they see as another loophole they can use to trip up the system. Did someone do the right thing once? For liberals that gives them a grain of truth to wrap lies around so they can seize an opportunity to foster and forward their ideology.
Remember Obama working overtime over the course of months (if not years) to compare himself to Lincoln and to compare his liberal goals to the founding principles of the Republican Party?
Don't get sidetracked by shallow arguments that blow right past the point of what was said - you're doing what the liberals do, and liberals will usually beat you at their own game.
January 21, 2019, 12:10 PM
gearhounds
The left was willing to groom and prop up a liar in an effort to keep one man out of the Supreme Court; does anyone here believe they wouldn't lie about Ginsburg being alive if she were in fact deceased? I count nothing as out of the question where these traitors are involved.
We joke about "weekend at Ruthies" but after the last several years, the leftists are capable of anything imo.
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January 21, 2019, 12:19 PM
Elk Hunter
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Originally posted by chellim1:
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They knew what they were doing when they made them life appointments and I’m glad they did. There is a lot of material written on alternatives and they all stink.
Bottom line, it’s human life, everything has flaws. There is no perfect system and the framers knew that. The decided, and rightly so imo, that life appointments were the best of imperfect ideas.
Yeah, well... I favor term limits. For President: (2) 4 year terms For Congress: 12 years, which would be 2 Senate terms or 6 House terms For SCOTUS: 20 or maybe 25 years. It's long enough.
I am also in favor of term limits. But, 1 term for senate, 3 terms for representatives, 2 for prez, and 20 years for SCOTUS.
Look at all those, what amount to, life time appointments currently sitting in DC! 30-40 years? Not counting SCOTUS. Saw one senator (I think) the other day that has been there for more than 30 years!!!
Actually, I would prefer that senators be appointed by state gubbernments! That way, they would have more interest in looking out for their states, and less looking out for their pockets. ==================================================================== Richard Shelby Alabama 23 years in the Senate John McCain Arizona 23 years in the Senate Christopher Dodd Connecticut 29 years Joe Lieberman Connecticut 21 years Daniel Inouye Hawaii 47 years Richard Lugar Indiana 33 years Tom Harkin Iowa 25 years Chuck Grassley Iowa 29 years Mitch McConnell Kentucky 25 years Barbara Mikulski Maryland 23 years John Kerry Massachusetts 25 years Carl Levin Michigan 31 years Thad Cochran Mississippi 32 years Kit Bond Missouri 23 years Max Baucus Montana 32 years Harry Reid Nevada 23 years Jeff Bingaman New Mexico 27 years Kent Conrad North Dakota 23 years Robert Byrd West Virginia 51 years Jay Rockefeller West Virginia 25 years Schumer, 21 years
These people make a career out of it! If they ever had any semblance of service to the country and their constituents, they lost it pretty quickly once they got their seats at the trough.
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January 21, 2019, 12:23 PM
justjoe
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Originally posted by nhtagmember: Monty Python did it best
