FWIW, you can join Planet Fitness for $10/mo. with no contract.

I assume they have showers. See... I've been a member for a little over a year, but I'm not sure I've ever been inside.

-Rob

Don't file a claim with your home owners. You probably have at least a $500 deductible, more than likely $1k. All for a hotel room and a shower? That makes no sense at all. Just be glad your unit wasn't flooded. It will more than likely be a liability claim which means everything gets depreciated. Wait till the owners of those 4 units figure that out, if they haven't already.

For me it's also not as simple as just get a hotel because I have a dog. I would likely have to leave him in the apt and only use the hotel to shower and bathroom or put him in a kennel. If I leave him alone in an unfamiliar hotel he will literally bark all day while I go to work.

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Originally posted by Dusty78:

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
it's the A/C company's fault, not the HOA's.

I asked about that and the AC guys were by then long gone and the HOA wouldn't give me their info.

HOA would not give you the AC company's information? Fuck 'em then, let the HOA pay if they have information on the responsible party and refuse to disclose it.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
I did a little reading on NFPA 13R and the blame for lack of water overnight lies with your HOA. To avoid electronic monitoring of the sprinkler system, your HOA chose to follow the exception, "NFPA 13R systems using a common water supply for domestic use and the sprinkler system, provided a separate shutoff valve is not installed for the sprinkler system (B903.4, Exception 3)"

This is surprising to me. I've never seen a single shut off for both drinking water and sprinkler. Not once. I don't do anything related to sprinkler systems, but I'm in a lot of residential and commercial buildings poking around in the bowels. This defies common sense. The only thing I can guess it ensures if there is a problem with sprinklers it is fixed fast. People will go without life safety stuff no problem, but inconvenience them then it's an emergency.

I was thinking the same thing. Never seen the systems tied together. Always seen separate water lines coming up from the ground to each system.

I know in commercial buildings here when the system is down you can use what they call a fire watch until it is back up. Basically, The sprinkler company provides someone to babysit the building.

I wouldn't say that you are wrong for being pissed, but if you don't own the entire property then it's hard for you to reasonably make demands of how you want problems addressed. If you owned your own freestanding house then you are the one vetting any contractor work, and you are able to make sure everything is handled to your standards. A HOA in a condo is unfortunately not a guarantee against being inconvenienced when something with the rest of the property goes wrong.

Living in a shared facility has some advantages and some disadvantages. Having to deal with idiot neighbors just one wall away is a big one and is the main reason why I haven't lived in a condo or apartment for a long time. House ownership is a bigger responsibility but the advantages are worth it to me.

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Originally posted by Dusty78:I'm a shower freak too...I take like 3 a day.

Wow! Three showers a day. How did you come up with your handle "Dusty78"?

You certainly can't be "dusty".

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Originally posted by Warhorse:

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Originally posted by Dusty78:I'm a shower freak too...I take like 3 a day.

Wow! Three showers a day. How did you come up with your handle "Dusty78"?

You certainly can't be "dusty".

Well I do work in an environment where people are constantly puking, shitting, and bleeding on themselves

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Originally posted by comet24:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by tatortodd:
I did a little reading on NFPA 13R and the blame for lack of water overnight lies with your HOA. To avoid electronic monitoring of the sprinkler system, your HOA chose to follow the exception, "NFPA 13R systems using a common water supply for domestic use and the sprinkler system, provided a separate shutoff valve is not installed for the sprinkler system (B903.4, Exception 3)"

This is surprising to me. I've never seen a single shut off for both drinking water and sprinkler. Not once. I don't do anything related to sprinkler systems, but I'm in a lot of residential and commercial buildings poking around in the bowels. This defies common sense. The only thing I can guess it ensures if there is a problem with sprinklers it is fixed fast. People will go without life safety stuff no problem, but inconvenience them then it's an emergency.

I was thinking the same thing. Never seen the systems tied together. Always seen separate water lines coming up from the ground to each system.

I know in commercial buildings here when the system is down you can use what they call a fire watch until it is back up. Basically, The sprinkler company provides someone to babysit the building.

I was going to write a diatribe about how the HOA should've called a plumber if the firefighters couldn't isolate, but decided to take a look at NFPA 13R first. I was surprised to find a common water supply was OK.

I look at fire from an oil & gas perspective. We have separate systems (potable water, nonpotable water, fire water, etc), our fire lines are made of special materials and special coatings to increase escape time vs painted carbon steel, and FD's usually make us keep a metric shit ton of foam on hand so they can borrow it (i.e. mutual aid).

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