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I've wanted to get into jiu-jitsu for a while, but many schools are closed right now. I've seen a few Gracie style schools online and wonder how difficult it would be for someone who has trained in multiple styles to pick up the principles online?
 
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The only one I've heard of is this one and, well, you be the judge.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=...YSqB69q0B3sjzwwJ9GlI


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I can see using it for the workouts, but for the actual grappling?
That might get expensive when you hip-toss your computer.

The grappling needs to be done with another person, in person to get it down.


However, you are coming from different styles, and you have a background, so you're going to be able to see some stuff and understand it.


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The only one I've heard of is this one and, well, you be the judge.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=...YSqB69q0B3sjzwwJ9GlI


Funny.

https://www.gracieuniversity.com/Pages/Public/Channel

That's the one I was thinking about.

CPD SIG, Aikido was the same way where you have to work with someone to get it. I never considered it until I saw the school above. There could be benefits or I could learn bad habits that have to be undone. Then again, I could be coming in with those already from Kenpo, Aikido, etc.
 
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Funny you mention aikido. When covid hit, my sensei began offering online Zoom classes to keep the dojo going. They were successful to the point that other schools began to inquire about them. They are still going on. I only stopped when my heart did.

It was amazing how much you could learn. We even practiced kumi (weapon against weapon) with your opponent on your computer screen.

In the case of Brazilian jiu-jiutsu, I would imagine you could learn a lot of basics with good online instruction, exercises not requiring a partner. You could get one of those training dummies if you're really serious, or maybe grab a semi-willing family member.



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You can watch videos and learn all the fundamentals of shooting, everything there is to know, without firing a round. Once you pull the trigger on a loaded weapon, the recoil, the body mechanics, your reactions, all play a huge part in being a good shooter. It’s no different with martial arts.


I’m the cynic here. You can YouTube and zoom meeting all you want about martial arts. I read books and learned all kinds of stuff when I was younger. I thought I was decent. Then I started training in person and realized aside of stretching, I pretty much had wasted my time.

When it comes to martial arts, wrestling, boxing, BJJ, you name it, you won’t learn via a video.



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I actually know of someone who learned aikido mainly through video, and only attended a few classes to get the requisite feel with a live partner. He is now a 4-dan sensei.



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I've been training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for 11 years and the online learning stuff is a joke. You can watch the videos on YouTube for free, but it will never take place of actual rolling.
 
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Seems like online Jiu-jitsu classes would be about as useful as online swimming classes, but to each his own.
 
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I've wanted to get into jiu-jitsu for a while, but many schools are closed right now. I've seen a few Gracie style schools online and wonder how difficult it would be for someone who has trained in multiple styles to pick up the principles online?


Unless one of those other styles is wrestling, I'm not sure how much one can learn starting BJJ online.

The beauty about BJJ is that there is a lot of "rolling" or sparring. You get the opportunity to apply what you've learned really quick.


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There are foundation drills you can learn and practice from online. You won’t learn bjj without a person to practice/roll with.




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I actually know of someone who learned aikido mainly through video, and only attended a few classes to get the requisite feel with a live partner. He is now a 4-dan sensei.


Aikido is like learning yoga. No offense, but it’s a lot of moves and memorization of those Katas. I’m not trying to bash Aikido, Tae Kwon Do, Shotokan, etc., but it’s nothing like BJJ. I know this because I have trained in these when I was younger.

Yes, you can learn katas via video/zoom. It’s like learning dance.

BJJ is like learning wrestling or boxing. Ain’t going to happen without a partner.



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I'd fly to Turks and Caicos with live ammo falling out of my pockets before getting within spitting distance of NJ with a firearm.
The “lol” thread
 
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I have been dong Gracie jiu jitsu for over a year now. Once covid hit we went to zoom calls. The videos are great and make more sense once you have been through a few classes. Almost all of jiu jitsu is based off feel. You might be ok if you have prior experience but it will still be a challenge. You could get the basics down through online. The good part about Gracie is that you don't just jump into rolling. They break it all down so it all makes sense. Maybe watch some videos online and try to practice on your own before you go all in. You can even build yourself a dummy which does help. Gracie also has "Gracie Garages" where you can team up with another member and practice.


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If you can find a battle buddy then online classes can work.

They can be fun and effective -- but without another human to roll with you're going to hit a limit pretty quick.


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I actually know of someone who learned aikido mainly through video, and only attended a few classes to get the requisite feel with a live partner. He is now a 4-dan sensei.


Aikido is like learning yoga. No offense, but it’s a lot of moves and memorization of those Katas. I’m not trying to bash Aikido, Tae Kwon Do, Shotokan, etc., but it’s nothing like BJJ. I know this because I have trained in these when I was younger.

Yes, you can learn katas via video/zoom. It’s like learning dance.

BJJ is like learning wrestling or boxing. Ain’t going to happen without a partner.


I thought understanding joint manipulation would be helpful, but maybe not. Gracie school, but maybe it's just a money scheme. Just was trying to find something fun to do while waiting for the schools to open again. Thanks for the info.
 
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I thought understanding joint manipulation would be helpful, but maybe not. Gracie school, but maybe it's just a money scheme. Just was trying to find something fun to do while waiting for the schools to open again. Thanks for the info.


It will be helpful, just like learning to shoot from videos can teach you the fundamentals. That said getting in the mats with someone is where you will learn more.



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I'd fly to Turks and Caicos with live ammo falling out of my pockets before getting within spitting distance of NJ with a firearm.
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Funny this topic came up as in a couple days I am going to post a discussion on Martial Arts training. Still getting my thoughts together for that one.

Is on line training it as effective as a live class with hands on instructor? No. But if that is all that is available right now for you, it can be very effective. Especially if you have a good grappling dummy or live partner to drill techniques.
 
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Next thing we'll see is 'home n'dry swimming...........' Roll Eyes
 
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Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for Beginners (The First 6 BJJ Techniques Everyone MUST Learn) with the Gracies:

 
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Tommy takes tang soo do, and when this hit he went to zoom classes...they did a lot of cardio and core building to keep the kids in some shape, and they did forms..but everything else has to be hand on.

I can see learning a form but actually grappling or breaking free from someone would require contact with another human



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