Nov. 10, 1975 - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
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November 10, 2017, 08:33 AM
sidss1
RIP, Mariners, all 29 souls. I have been to White Fish Point, and even in the summer, it feels erie up there.Maybe because of the images and story of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald in my mind. RIP.
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November 10, 2017, 08:38 AM
FlyingScot
I lived in Fenton Michigan as a child at that time. We had our sailboat in Sanilac but had pulled out of water by this time. I knew the lakes and had my share of scares with parents and friends - love the water but the great lakes are unique...and November storms are cool to watch from land but mother nature is powerful.
I clearly remember the reports, questioning what happened and the storm. But my clearest memory is reading the Detroit newspaper at breakfast in our bay windows with the graphics explaining what they found when the wreck was located. Probably one of the first times that Death and permanency of dying really sunk in as they explored the bridge and located the crew. I was like 8 years old.
Godspeed
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November 10, 2017, 08:52 AM
sourdough44
Just the other week there was a good storm in 'Da Yoop', high winds, low pressure, nasty.
A relative sent a picture of an ore freighter tucked fairly deep in Keweenaw Bay on Lake Superior. Even back in the 70's there should of been plenty of weather info at hand & on the reading.
November 10, 2017, 09:01 AM
selogic
God I HATE that song .
November 10, 2017, 09:02 AM
chessiedog1
God I love that song.
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November 10, 2017, 09:18 AM
CoolRich59
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Originally posted by selogic: God I HATE that song .
That's unfortunate. I love the song and think it is a tremendous tribute to the men who lost their lives that day.
_____________________________________________________________________ “One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.” – Thomas Sowell
November 10, 2017, 09:19 AM
MNSIG
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Originally posted by selogic: God I HATE that song .
Then go away.
Whether or not you like Gordon Lightfoot, I think it is a moving tribute.
November 10, 2017, 09:33 AM
xl_target
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Originally posted by MNSIG:
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Originally posted by selogic: God I HATE that song .
Then go away.
Whether or not you like Gordon Lightfoot, I think it is a moving tribute.
Absolutely, very moving. That song still gives me the shivers so many years later.
November 10, 2017, 09:34 AM
Gustofer
How can you hate a song with arguably the best lyric ever put music:
Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours...
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November 10, 2017, 10:04 AM
gw3971
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Originally posted by Gustofer: How can you hate a song with arguably the best lyric ever put music:
Does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours...
Yep. I love that song. I love the way the lyrics describe the wreck. Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings In the ruins of her ice water mansion. Truly haunting... an epic song!
November 10, 2017, 10:11 AM
RHINOWSO
We lived in the UP from '76-79 and my parents recall that the Fitz was still very fresh in peoples minds. I was too young to have any idea of what went on, other than there were big ships and water around.
They had friends with sons working the iron ore routes and would collect paperback books for when they came to port in Marquette - with no internet / TV / etc, that was the only real entertainment for the fellas.
November 10, 2017, 11:02 AM
MRMATT
"On the big lake they call Gitchigumi."
Haunting song. Terrible tragedy.
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November 10, 2017, 11:26 AM
BB61
How does a storm on the Great Lakes compare to one in the deep ocean?
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November 10, 2017, 11:32 AM
MNSIG
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Originally posted by BB61: How does a storm on the Great Lakes compare to one in the deep ocean?
I'm interested in that as well. I've heard that the relatively shallow water makes it worse under similar conditions. Of course, no hurricanes. The Great Lakes have certainly taken down their share of ships over the years.
November 10, 2017, 11:36 AM
sourdough44
I think this storm in question had a record(or close to a record) low pressure. That lead to the very high winds. Then the ship ends up in the wrong part of the big lake, set up so the winds get the water stirred up.
Then before you know, what wasn't supposed to be possible, happens.
November 10, 2017, 11:41 AM
Scoutmaster
I have a student this quarter who was in grade school in the Michigan UP when the ship went down.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
November 10, 2017, 11:44 AM
Scoutmaster
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Originally posted by xl_target:... very moving. That song still gives me the shivers so many years later.
Amen.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
November 10, 2017, 12:00 PM
jhe888
Fellas its been good to know ya.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything.
November 10, 2017, 12:09 PM
trapper189
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Originally posted by BB61: How does a storm on the Great Lakes compare to one in the deep ocean?
The waves bounce back off the shoreline and create some interesting effects. Large waves with much shorter periods than would happen in open ocean.
Since visiting the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum, that song is my 7 yo son's favorite. We see the Arthur M. Andersen on a fairly regular basis from our house on Lake Huron.