“Russian jets are trying to provoke U.S. aircraft into dogfights above Syria, top U.S. officials have confirmed.

American Biden military leaders have told their pilots not to respond to the provocations, but admit the dangerous maneuvers are deeply worrying. …”

Engage those suckers.

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/12032095

They've been trying to play for quite a while. US pilots have been told to not fall for it, mainly due to the Russian pilots not having a good handle of their own aircraft as evidenced by the poor hot-dogging they've shown when intercepting our slower surveillance planes, bombers and drones.

Fox-3

Our version of ‘Uncle Ho’ has given them permission.

Splash them all! If they aren't dissuaded from these actions, what incentive do they have to discontinue them? Has "kids, please play nice" ever worked in the history of mankind?

Oh yeah, showing the bully that you're afraid to fight him is bound to lead to a desirable outcome.

The Russians have had a few close calls. I am really surprised this story hasn’t been discussed more.

Russian fighter fired missile at UK surveillance plane

From the article:
“ A Russian fighter jet fired a missile at a manned British surveillance aircraft flying over the Black Sea in September but the munition malfunctioned, according to U.S. defense officials and a recently leaked classified U.S. intelligence report. The incident was far more serious than originally portrayed and could have amounted to an act of war.

According to two U.S. defense officials, the Russian pilot had misinterpreted what a radar operator on the ground was saying to him and thought he had permission to fire. The pilot, who had locked on the British aircraft, fired, but the missile did not launch properly.”

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but the missile did not launch properly.

Ha ha ha.

Talk about a paper tiger.

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Originally posted by stickman428:

The incident was far more serious than originally portrayed and could have amounted to an act of war.

Firing on the Brit plane WAS an 'act of war.' The only reason it didn't escalate is because of the malfunction. . .

Fuck around and find out.

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According to two U.S. defense officials, the Russian pilot had misinterpreted what a radar operator on the ground was saying to him and thought he had permission to fire. The pilot, who had locked on the British aircraft, fired, but the missile did not launch properly.”

That article and similar all came out 2+ weeks ago...regarding an incident that was known back in October of last year
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...plane-Black-Sea.html

Shitty comms, shitty fire-control system and shitty weapon resulted in disaster being avoided and possible bigger war developing.

How many other incidents have had similar outcomes and everyone not knowing how close things came....probably more than what we're comfortable knowing about.

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Russian jets are trying to provoke U.S. aircraft into dogfights above Syria

Why are we above Syria?

I’d like to point out that reactions have been a part of normal activity between nations since forever, and none of this is exclusive to President Biden, Obama, or Trump. It’s simply how things go, if we reacted to every reaction or provocation we’d be at war 24/7.

We do it, they do it, your friend does it, your mom does it.

dogfight? I thought planes engage over the horizon now.

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The pilot, who had locked on the British aircraft, fired, but the missile did not launch properly.”

inquiry: what are the odds random chance was operational at just that moment?

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Originally posted by signewt:

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The pilot, who had locked on the British aircraft, fired, but the missile did not launch properly.”

inquiry: what are the odds random chance was operational at just that moment?

According to the Russian track record of mechanical diligence? 1000:1 on everything being all fucked up.

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Originally posted by egregore:

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Russian jets are trying to provoke U.S. aircraft into dogfights above Syria

Why are we above Syria?

This (Why are we above Syria) is the most intelligent response I have read on this thread. No doubt, this sort of malfeasance is precisely how World War lll will begin.

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Originally posted by egregore:

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Russian jets are trying to provoke U.S. aircraft into dogfights above Syria

Why are we above Syria?

We’re still killing ISIS leadership in Syria using special ops to target and destroy them. It’s a labor intensive process, and requires fighter aircraft to dissuade Russian aircraft from fucking with the assets finding those IS targets. If you don’t want us to do it, call your congressman and tell them. Until then, we follow orders.