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so you like 7x more than 10x? _________________________ | |||
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Savor the limelight |
It can be as complicated as you want to make it, or it can be fairly easy. You can learn the why things work or just accept that they do work. I find myself in the why column way to often. What you want is a pair of solidly constructed, waterproof, fog proof 7x50 binoculars with a strap. You want good glass and good light transmission. You want a built in compass if you plan on plotting bearings on charts. Light transmission and gathering are actually separate, but related. Transmission refers to how much of the light that enters the objective end the binoculars actually reaches your eyes at the other end. It’s determined by fancy, well made glass and coatings. The size of the objective lense has nothing to do with it. Light gathering is how much light can physically enter the objective end and is determined by the size of the objective lenses. The natural question is then why not 7x100? The short answer is: because the image that combination creates is beyond the human eye’s ability to see. The long answer is really sciencey and I really don’t remember because I read it a long time ago. Basically, the human pupil can only get so big and thus there’s a physical limit as to how much light it will let in. With optics, there’s a ratio between power and the objective lens that creates an image the human eye can take advantage of and beyond that provides no benefit. | |||
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Ok so that drops the price by a lot! _________________________ | |||
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Savor the limelight |
Yes. There’s a reason most marine binoculars are 7x50. I’ve tried using my Nikon 10x42 Monarch X (I think I have the model above these, but it wouldn’t change my opinion) there’s no benefit to the higher power on a small boat. Maybe on a ship there would be. They cannot be held steady enough on a small boat to see any finer detail that the 7x ones will. | |||
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Experienced Slacker |
Find some image stabilizing models and try them at the store. Here's a quick google fu: https://worldbirds.com/image-stabilized-binoculars/ | |||
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Festina Lente |
Steiner Commander 7 x 50c used to be the go to for personally owned binocs on the bridge. 7 x 50 was US Navy standard, best mix of magnification and stabilization… NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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teacher of history |
Good to see you posting again. I don't think I had seen anything from you lately.
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Checkout Best Binocular Reviews the guy really knows his glass, the link I provided is his binocular guide. He has a massive listing of reviews of every brand and price range you can imagine. Best Marine Binoculars 2022 ---------- “Nobody can ever take your integrity away from you. Only you can give up your integrity.” H. Norman Schwarzkopf | |||
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Freethinker |
[Emphasis added.] This is true when referring to transmission of the light through the binoculars, but lest someone carelessly misread the post and focus only on the bolded sentence (as I did initially), when all other factors are equal the size of the objective lens does affect how much light initially enters an optical device. That of course is simply obvious: put a bucket and a teacup out in a rainstorm, and the bucket will collect a greater volume of water because it has a larger opening. The same is true of larger objective lenses, but as pointed out a couple of times, there is a limit to how large of an objective lens in relation to the magnification that the human eye can benefit from. ► 6.4/93.6 “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions … which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy | |||
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Savor the limelight |
I did try to explain that in the next paragraph I wrote. I didn’t mention that I vaguely recall the human eye limit gets worse as you get older. | |||
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I think we got a winner.... https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...=ALAQLAKJ574UN&psc=1 _________________________ | |||
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Freethinker |
I have read that too, but it isn’t mentioned in every article about exit pupil size I have run across. It could mean that for many of us striving for max exit pupil size in our optical devices is a futile effort. I should ask my optometrist about that during my next visit. I have several binoculars with different magnifications and objective lens sizes, but they are such different vintages and quality that any effort to see which one provided the best night vision views would probably be useless. ► 6.4/93.6 “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions … which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy | |||
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Yes, for use on a boat 7x50 is perfect. I don't have experience with stabilized, maybe 10 power works on the water with it. | |||
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Altitude Minimum |
I took a 65 HATT to Palm Beach several times for a friend of my boss. He had those on the boat and I didn’t care for them. I still used mine. Although those are lighter…. | |||
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If they don't have Image Stabilization you do NOT anything more powerful than 7X. If you have Marine grade Image Stabilization 12X works quite well. BTW, there are multiple levels of Image stabilization. Canon's are mostly optimized for hand shaking or similar. If you want to stand on a boat in heavy waves and see a clear image it's going to cost. Fujinon offers several model optimized for high movement stabilization. I've provided a lint to some 14 power IS glasses what will work but you may need to back off the zoom a bit. As for the price, take a look at the cost for their Gyro Stabilized 12 power glasses. I've stopped counting. | |||
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