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Going on a trip to Europe Tuesday, few days in London and then a week in Italy. I want to check a knife to have in hotel room and villa, not so much to carry on my person. I’m thinking a Spyderco folder to accompany my Surefire G2x. Any issues with this? NRA Life Member Steak: Rare. Coffee: Black. Bourbon: Neat. | ||
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Possesing a knife in public without good reason - unless it’s a knife with a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less, e.g. a Swiss Army knife (a "lock knife" does not come into the category of "folding pocket knife" because it is not immediately foldable at all times. In Britain, it is currently illegal to carry a knife longer than three inches in public "without good reason" and illegally carrying a knife can be punished with up to four years in prison and an "unlimited fine. ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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How do they eat steak? . | |||
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| In search of baseball, strippers, and guns |
British government on the matter https://www.gov.uk/guidance/im...on-offensive-weapons Looks like you can bring a folder in Thread about Italy (some Italian knife guys chime in) https://www.spyderco.com/forum...iewtopic.php?t=78308 If you’re just going to keep it in the room, go to a department store and buy a kitchen knife and then ditch it when you leave —————————————————— If the meek will inherit the earth, what will happen to us tigers? | |||
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They don’t eat steak 
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| Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us  |
What about a Surefire Defender?? Flashlight with strike bezel. Or a Benchmade Pen?? ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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You want a 42a compliant knife. Can't have a liner lock or lockback - blade has to fold back without manipulating another part. Many 42a knives have a spring loaded ball bearing in the pivot so the blade won't fold back until a certain amount of pressure is applied. Here is an example of one: http://www.cuttingedgeknives.c...php?page=6&pID=22195 I bought one before they were discontinued in the US to legally carry in the UK, Ireland and on the continent. ETA: Missed the leaving Tuesday part. Sorry. Harshest Dream, Reality | |||
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I think Spyderco Slipit knives are built to meet the size and lock specifications for Europe but I agree with the other posters about carrying any knife in Britain. I think someone was recently locked up for carrying pointy scissors or nail clippers or some such. Treat England like a TSA checkpoint and you will be fine. Luck, Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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Or bacon Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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I carry these when I go places
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That's what I carry when traveling in Europe. OP: People carrying knives in-general are not looked on too kindly in Europe. If you absolutely believe you need to carry a knife, pick-up one of these in a local market or, deli, very common. If you get questioned, you can brush it off as a picnic knife. You bring in a Benchmade or, Spyderco type of folder the local police or, security may freak-out and over-react, detain you longer than was necessary. If I was living there, I could tell you the temperature of the water about this type of thing but, if you're simply doing the tourist thing, just keep you head on a swivel. You're more apt to run into a problem in London than Italy given the points-of-friction that are happening there. Just remember, there's a lot of security at the tourist and cultural hot-spots. Every museum and historical building is a target, metal detectors and cameras are everywhere, especially in London. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
What about Swiss Army knives? Everybody has and carries those, don't they? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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England was one of very few foreign countries I had hoped to visit in my retirement, seems it is becoming much less so with each passing year. What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???  | |||
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It’s to late to get one here but if you are going to Ireland buy one of these. https://www.oldeshillelagh.com/34-36. It would do you better than a knife and I would presume already be legal anywhere in Europe. __________________________ | |||
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Okay because blade doesn't lock, but be sure to confirm maximum blade length. Harshest Dream, Reality | |||
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A shillelagh is just fine - it's classed as a cultural artefact, just like the Sikh kirpan. | |||
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You eat your bacon with a knife? I just pick mine up and eat it  | |||
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There you go. Buy a loaded shillelagh walking stick and be done with it. I have a 13” club I bought from Olde Shillelagh. It really is a “cultural artefact” that has a modern useful purpose. I keep mine at work. __________________________ | |||
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| Too soon old, too late smart |
+1 A shillelagh is protection with style and ability to break bones, The flip side of never take a knife to a gunfight is never take a knife to a stick-fight. A shillelagh or nice hickory cane can help you keep distance between you and your adversaries or disable an attacker, even in close quarters. Google canemasters to see what you can do with a cane. | |||
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It is my understanding that Swiss Army knives that don't lock and are under 3" comply with British law. But do not take that as a definitive statement. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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