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Do we have any Native Americans here?

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January 14, 2024, 09:13 PM
Marlin Fan
Do we have any Native Americans here?
In my background I’ve been told I have Native American ancestry. Can anyone make a suggestion on how to figure this out? Thank you.
January 14, 2024, 09:15 PM
Marlin Fan
One last thing, most of my relatives have passed away.
January 14, 2024, 09:41 PM
ElToro
My wife would like to prove her heritage as well and it’s not easy at all. If you or your direct ancestors were not on the roll of the various tribe, you are sunk. Apparently there was some social shame at the time and some folks made an effort to avoid getting their name registered. If you saw a photo of Her great grandmother you’d be lying if you hadn’t said, man that’s a native woman right there. and they were from the mountains of Tennessee/south Carolina so right area geographically and family stories etc. but all for naught. Also apparently by luck or design there is not much you can do to prove it DNA wise as well. Best of luck in your search.
January 14, 2024, 09:47 PM
egregore
I suppose you could try some genealogical research and see who/what turns up. For help with this, visit a Mormon church. Seriously.





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January 14, 2024, 09:50 PM
Fenris
I am part Choctaw and part Muskogee. A number of relatives including my sister and mother (now passed) are registered on the tribal rolls. I never bothered.




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January 14, 2024, 11:29 PM
BB61
Contact a Family History Center with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormon). They can help you. They won't do it for you but they can help you get started. Or you could hire a professional genealogist.


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January 14, 2024, 11:37 PM
Rey HRH
You can do one of them DNA analysis tests unless you’re a serial killer who’s being hunted by the FBI or if you don’t mind your genetic markers in a government database.



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January 15, 2024, 06:11 AM
darthfuster
I’ve been told my whole life that I have Native American heritage. I believed the stories until DNA testing showed Elizabeth Warren levels of heritage. I’ve since disavowed ‘lore’ and refuse to sit and listen to it and the cliched defense of it. I only post this now to correct the record in case I stated so in the past.



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January 15, 2024, 06:31 AM
Skull Leader
DNA doesn't work like you think it does. Every generation that goes by is a chance for Native genes to be, for a lack of a better term, bred out of you. Just because a DNA test shows no Native American doesn't mean that you aren't directly related to Native Americans. Old school genealogy is how you're going to have to either prove or disprove the stories.

Good video that explains how DNA inheritance works.


January 15, 2024, 07:23 AM
shovelhead
Through genealogy research on Ancestry @ FamilySearch I found on my great great grandmother through my great grandfather’s maternal side on my maternal side that I have Ottawa and Menominee ancestors dating back to the late 1700’s. Have not found much on my great grandfathers paternal side, pretty much a dead end there.

Hope how I explained it made some sense!

That together with French, Belgian, French Canadian, Austrian, German, Hungarian.


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January 15, 2024, 09:30 AM
sigspecops
My wife and I joke about this all the time. Our families and many others we know have passed down all kinds of stories about Native American heritage. Here in Texas, it seems like 7 out of 10 people have been told that that someone in their family tree was an Indian.
It's extremely hard to prove of course, but so far I've never known any of these claims to be proven true. If half these claims were accurate there'd be more Native Americans here now than when the Mayflower landed.


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January 15, 2024, 09:43 AM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by sigspecops:
My wife and I joke about this all the time. Our families and many others we know have passed down all kinds of stories about Native American heritage. Here in Texas, it seems like 7 out of 10 people have been told that that someone in their family tree was an Indian.


I'm one of those 7 out of 10 Texans. Razz

No, I have not looked into it and figure it's probably nonsense.


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January 15, 2024, 12:29 PM
ibanda
I can't count the number of Oklahomans I know who had a Cherokee grandmother. Most of them likely did (or one of the tribes). There are 38 Indian reservations in Oklahoma.

I didn't hear that story growing up in Texas. The Rangers drove the Indians out 2 generations before Oklahoma was founded.




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January 15, 2024, 12:54 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by Skull Leader:
DNA doesn't work like you think it does. Every generation that goes by is a chance for Native genes to be, for a lack of a better term, bred out of you. Just because a DNA test shows no Native American doesn't mean that you aren't directly related to Native Americans. Old school genealogy is how you're going to have to either prove or disprove the stories.

Good video that explains how DNA inheritance works.

[FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="383" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/geE7zsehccY" title="AncestryDNA | Why Is My Native American Ancestry Not Showing Up? | Ancestry" width="681"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]


Understood. Given how much heritage was claimed, there should have been some considerable lineage found. There was virtually nothing. Back in the mid 1900s it became virtuous to be Native American. My maternal natural grandfather dressed and lived like one. Convinced my mother she was half. When she was genealogically tested, nada, zilch, nothing.



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