I have a Honda HRR216PDA push model for my 1/4 acre, for 12+ years now. I change oil, clean air filter, and sharpen blade yearly, maybe change plug too. Never had any mechanical issues with it. A little rust on the steel deck is worst part.
If grass is really high using mulching, it will leave a small trail on right rear wheel if you walk too fast. No trails with bagging.
I'll probably go battery if/when it ever dies.
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August 24, 2022, 10:14 AM
JasonATI
Always had great luck with our Honda mower.
August 24, 2022, 10:26 AM
PASig
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Originally posted by mark123: I will once again dissent the common opinion of Honda. I needed a new mower and didn't want to spend the $1200 on a Toro commercial 21" for the two tiny lawns that I mow. Everyone always says Honda Honda Honda so I grabbed a sub $500 version at Home Depot fully realizing it's a homeowner model. Double blades, easy start. I do admit it did start easily but the cut quality wasn't passable at all. It left a row of clippings by the left rear tire. Total garbage. I disassembled it, kept the engine and threw the rest away. Wasted money, lesson learned. You'd really have to not care about how your lawn looks to use a Honda mower.
It was either you got a lemon or the $500 ones don't cut like the $1200 ones because mine cuts the grass very well and leaves nothing behind.
And that line "You'd really have to not care about how your lawn looks to use a Honda mower" is complete bullshit man. You're bashing ALL Hondas off of the ONE bad experience you had? C'mon now.
August 24, 2022, 10:31 AM
HRK
You want inexpensive, Harbor Freight has inexpensive
While an EGO will be $700 you can get an electric self propelled with bagger walk behind for $269.00, tool only. Even less if you don't want the self propelled... $199.00 plus 80v battery is $119 plus $70 for the rapid charger. still less than EGO...
Echo, Kobalt, Ryobi, Greenworks, Black and Decker and Makita all have cordless electric mowers.
Lowes and Home Desperate have them, I'd check out the models see which one you like, and the warranty, replacement batteries are not free, then again, neither is gas and oil...
Whatever you get, choose the accessories to go with it in that line, if you choose EGO then get the EGO Blower and Trimmer, that way with each new purchase you get another charger and battery and all can be swapped between the units. You can spread the use over the batteries vs just having one.
August 24, 2022, 11:03 AM
220-9er
I bought a Honda 21" off of Marketplace or Craigslist from someone moving out of state. They work great, start on one pull and mulch laves or any other vegetation well. The mulching works so well I never use the bagger.
A 21" self propelled is where you want to be. 5-6.5 hp class (160-190cc) will take care of almost any length grass without bogging down.
I would stay away from battery powered. Batteries do not last. In 5 years, you will need to get new ones. Talk about sticker shock. For example replacing tje batteries on a Milwaukee will run more than 500 bucks.
I have never had a gas lawnmower last <10yrs. I currently have 3 with Briggs engines. Newest one is 15 yrs old all start in 1 or 2 pulls.
For a residential mower, there is no reason to spend 2x for a Honda mower.
Just get something with a briggs engine. If it breaks in 10 years you will still be able to get parts. And when your $300 mower rusts out in 10-20 years, call it a good 30/year value and get a new one.
August 24, 2022, 12:13 PM
TMats
I’ve got a Fiskars reel-type push mower that I’ll give you if you come up this way; I hated the damn thing. I bought a used Honda mower from a lawn service company that realized a 21” mower just wasn’t efficient for a professional lawn service. I don’t love it because the safety bar that must be held back against the handle tends to pinch if you don’t wear gloves. I also don’t like the fact that if the safety bar is engaged, so is the blade, you can’t run the mower from the shed to the area you want to cut without the blade turning. Otherwise, it mulches or bags and works like a champ.
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August 24, 2022, 12:24 PM
Spudgun
Honda! Once I had a problem but it was bad gas. Repair facility said use real gas- do not use gas/ethanol mix. Problem solved.
August 24, 2022, 12:34 PM
Warhorse
I have been happy with my 7 year old Toro 22" Pacer. The Briggs and Stratton motor blew up the first summer that I had it. Now I must admit that I bought this mower at Home Depot, but I took it to a local dealer known for his exceptional service work. He dealt with Briggs & Stratton directly, and they replaced the motor with a new one, and paid the dealers labor to replace it, at no cost to me. It's been a great mower since then. Moral lesson learned, I have since bought a Stihl battery line trimmer from him, as well as a Stihl gas edger from him. Buy local.
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August 24, 2022, 12:34 PM
TRIO
I currently have a used mower I found on Craigslist about 4 years ago. I'm told it is from the early 1980's. 21" Snapper with a B&S 3.5hp engine. It is marked as commercial heavy duty.
I had very tall grass, at least 9", in an area of my yard. Synthetic oil, E0 pure gas, new blade, highest setting, even with side chute stopping every 5ft or so to let it clear debris from inside of the deck. Does a decent job for knocking down the height.
My neighbor calls it "The Indestructable".
On lowest setting, cutting normal height grass, it cuts very well!
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August 24, 2022, 12:43 PM
mark123
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Originally posted by PASig:
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Originally posted by mark123: I will once again dissent the common opinion of Honda. I needed a new mower and didn't want to spend the $1200 on a Toro commercial 21" for the two tiny lawns that I mow. Everyone always says Honda Honda Honda so I grabbed a sub $500 version at Home Depot fully realizing it's a homeowner model. Double blades, easy start. I do admit it did start easily but the cut quality wasn't passable at all. It left a row of clippings by the left rear tire. Total garbage. I disassembled it, kept the engine and threw the rest away. Wasted money, lesson learned. You'd really have to not care about how your lawn looks to use a Honda mower.
It was either you got a lemon or the $500 ones don't cut like the $1200 ones because mine cuts the grass very well and leaves nothing behind.
And that line "You'd really have to not care about how your lawn looks to use a Honda mower" is complete bullshit man. You're bashing ALL Hondas off of the ONE bad experience you had? C'mon now.
wait until you hear my opinion of Speed Queen.
It wasn't a lemon because i tried a friend's Honda. It did the same thing. He said he just deals with the row of clippings. I wasn't willing to deal with it.This message has been edited. Last edited by: mark123,
August 24, 2022, 12:44 PM
tatortodd
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Originally posted by TMats: I also don’t like the fact that if the safety bar is engaged, so is the blade, you can’t run the mower from the shed to the area you want to cut without the blade turning.
They make a version with a clutch which adds a little over $100.
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August 24, 2022, 12:51 PM
mark123
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Originally posted by tatortodd:
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Originally posted by TMats: I also don’t like the fact that if the safety bar is engaged, so is the blade, you can’t run the mower from the shed to the area you want to cut without the blade turning.
They make a version with a clutch which adds a little over $100.
My next 21" will definitely have a clutch. Even though my 18 year old Toro starts with one pull, it's still annoying to restart it if you have to let go of the handle to grab a stick or move a dog lead.
August 24, 2022, 03:11 PM
architect
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Originally posted by mark123:
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Originally posted by tatortodd:
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Originally posted by TMats: I also don’t like the fact that if the safety bar is engaged, so is the blade, you can’t run the mower from the shed to the area you want to cut without the blade turning.
They make a version with a clutch which adds a little over $100.
My next 21" will definitely have a clutch. Even though my 18 year old Toro starts with one pull, it's still annoying to restart it if you have to let go of the handle to grab a stick or move a dog lead.
A velcro cable tie to defeat the auto-shutoff works just fine. Duct tape would probably work too, if a little more cumbersome.
August 24, 2022, 04:19 PM
KevinCW
Another vote for Honda. Mine is about 7 years old now. Still works great. Self propelled and can mulch or bag.
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August 24, 2022, 05:52 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Well with 54 suggestions, have you made your choice?
August 24, 2022, 06:07 PM
mrvmax
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Originally posted by PASig: Trust me, get a Honda
I have the HRX-217 with the Hydrostatic Drive and it’s been great
Right now I’m paying for a guy to come cut the grass because I’m just so busy trying to raise 3 little kids but this fall I’ll be using it to bag leaves then next year I’m back to cutting my own grass.
This thing doesn’t just mulch the grass, it PURÉES it! Also has an awesome bagging system if you like to bag, I blow my leaves into big piles then use the Honda with bagger to suck them up and chop them fine, then I dispose of.
It wasn’t cheap at around $1200 but it’s been worth every penny and I know it will last me forever.
I'm running a composite deck Honda from the mid-1990's that was purchased new from HD from a good friend.
Other than replacing the bag a couple times, basic maintenance and whatnot, it has done me right.
No qualms about buying another.
My dad still has an early 1960's Toro Whirlwind side bagger with a crank starter that's still ticking.......
August 24, 2022, 07:46 PM
MGMAN45
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Originally posted by V-Tail: Battery. Minimum maintenance. No oil nor spark plug to change. No fuel to buy and store.
We have an EGo self-propelled, happy with it, others might be just as good.
I agree,for a lot that small go with battery power.Good luck.
August 24, 2022, 07:50 PM
Minnow
I have been using a Husqvarna HU800H 22” with a Honda GCV160 engine to cut a 3/8 acre yard for the last 10 years. It always starts on 1 or 2 pulls. I let it mulch, no grass trails left behind. When it dies, I will probably get whatever their current model is that replaced this one.