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https://www.detroitnews.com/st...ic-stop/88707058007/

To be fired for policing. Where the heck is their union?

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It's disgusting that the DPD's official policy is not to engage or cooperate with ICE, but that is probably what they will ultimately be able to hang these guys on, even if they were objectively doing the right thing.
 
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I hear ICE is hiring...Signing bonuses even! Wink


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It's disgusting that the DPD's official policy is not to engage or cooperate with ICE, but that is probably what they will ultimately be able to hang these guys on, even if they were objectively doing the right thing.


I can't read the article because it's behind a paywall. But from the first two paragraphs I can see, it appears that they're being suspended not for cooperating with ICE but with CBP (Customs and Border Protection).

Which is wild, considering Detroit is a border city... They're literally one short bridge away from Windsor, Ontario, Canada, and the maritime border runs directly adjacent to the bulk of southern/eastern Detroit.

The entire city of Detroit is well within the 100 mile customs/border enforcement zone. Hell, the furthest city limits of Detroit proper are within a mere 20 miles of the border!


 
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"The mayor supports the DPD policy that officers are not to engage ICE or CBP for translation services," said John Roach, spokesman for Sheffield, in a statement.
 
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Just one of many reasons the place is referred to as "Detroilet"
 
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Went to college at Wayne State back in the 90’s. In 97 I lived with my ex on Greenfield and Tireman. Literally could hear full auto gunfire from the Herman Gardens projects! City was horrible which is a shame, Detroit in the 50’s I’ve heard the city was thriving with beautiful large homes. Never the same after the riots.
 
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Pretty sure this is when Dick Jones and OCP step in.
 
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Originally posted by bigwagon:
It's disgusting that the DPD's official policy is not to engage or cooperate with ICE, but that is probably what they will ultimately be able to hang these guys on, even if they were objectively doing the right thing.


I can't read the article because it's behind a paywall. But from the first two paragraphs I can see, it appears that they're being suspended not for cooperating with ICE but with CBP (Customs and Border Protection).

Which is wild, considering Detroit is a border city... They're literally one short bridge away from Windsor, Ontario, Canada, and the maritime border runs directly adjacent to the bulk of southern/eastern Detroit.

The entire city of Detroit is well within the 100 mile customs/border enforcement zone. Hell, the furthest city limits of Detroit proper are within a mere 20 miles of the border!




and reading between the lines, the reason is because they used the CBP for "assistance." I'm thinking they called the CBP because they know they're dealing with illegal immigrants. In short, they were cooperating with the federal push because of their conscience in opposition to their city politician's wishes.



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Ironically fitting Robocop was set in Detroit, as I recall






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Makes me wonder how secure our Canadian border crossing points are vs. Mexico? (today's Mexico)
 
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Makes me wonder how secure our Canadian border crossing points are vs. Mexico? (today's Mexico)

Yeah, you thinking Dearborn is full of legal, assimilating immigrants or just more leftist voters and terror cells. No way Rashida gets elected anywhere else in the state. Republican party has really let us down here.


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Did they ever get the "People Mover" ?


 
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Did they ever get the "People Mover" ?

Yeah, they have recently made it free too. Also have a linear light rail for just the downtown area for money. They’re out of bankruptcy now, but I have to believe as they get more control back they’ll eff it up again


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Detroit went down the drain decades ago.


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Did they ever get the "People Mover" ?


You mean the “Mugger Mover”?

CBP is present downtown all the time being a border city and has for years. This new Chief has not impressed me but he sure likes the news media here especially WXYZ Channel 7.


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The DPD Chief has backed off on firing the officers, and instead they're "only" going to be suspended without pay for 30 days.

From https://www.police1.com/chiefs...during-traffic-stops

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Detroit PD chief walks back decision to fire 2 officers for calling Border Patrol during traffic stops

DETROIT ― After threatening to fire two Detroit Police Officers for cooperating with federal immigration authorities during traffic stops, Detroit Police Chief Todd Bettison said Friday that he’d changed his mind.

The decision came a day after the Detroit Board of Police Commissioners voted 10-0 to approve Bettison’s recommendation to place Sgt. Denise Wallet and Officer James Corsi on administrative leave for 30 days. The suspended officers will not receive pay during the suspensions but will continue to receive benefits.

Also Thursday, Wallet’s attorney filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court of the Eastern District of Michigan, claiming she hadn’t violated Detroit Police policy, and seeking to prevent her firing. Michigan House Speaker Matt Hall also told reporters that firing officers for working with federal immigration agents could prompt a review of whether DPD’s policies conflict with House rules that prohibit earmarks for sanctuary cities.

Bettison had already suspended the officers with pay after learning of the two incidents. He said Friday he was satisfied with the police board’s decision to suspend the officers without pay, and that he would not fire them.

“Last night the Detroit Board of Police Commissioners took an extraordinary step to unanimously vote to suspend without pay for 30 days the two DPD officers who violated longstanding departmental policy,” Bettison said in a statement. “Policies are meant to provide structure and limits for officers to protect them and citizens alike. When policies are not followed, whether in this matter or DPD’s no-pursuit policy, it puts the community at risk.

“I support the actions of the board as the ultimate discipline for these officers,” Bettison said. “The Board had the opportunity to review all the video and consider all the facts and circumstances in their decision. The role of the Board is to serve as an oversight body and a check and balance for the police department and I fully respect its role.”

“Therefore, I am satisfied with the Board’s decision and I will not be pursuing termination of these two officers,” the chief said. “This incident should make it clear, however, that as Chief, I will continue to vigorously enforce DPD’s policies.”

Wallet’s attorney Solomon Radner said Friday his client didn’t violate any policies.

“We appreciate that (the chief isn’t firing Wallet), but now he needs to rescind the suspension,” Radner said. “There’s no basis for it; and if there is a basis for it, I’d like the chief to answer one question: Which policy did she violate?”

According to Wallet’s lawsuit, the suspensions stem from a Feb. 9 traffic stop, after an officer requested her help because the officer could not identify a motorist who had provided a fake driver’s license.

When Wallet, a 27-year veteran, was unable to identify the driver with a fingerprint scanner, her lieutenant told her to call Border Patrol, the lawsuit claims. Border Patrol arrived and took the motorist, who was in the U.S. illegally, into custody, according to the lawsuit and police.

Corsi joined the department in 2015, according to a 2024 edition of Tuebor, a publication by the Detroit Police Officers Association. In 2023, he was named the District 3 Officer of the Year.

Bettison said that on Dec. 16, the officer contacted Border Patrol during a Dec. 16 traffic stop while investigating a person for a felony warrant. Agents arrived and detained the suspect, police said.
 
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