Wall preference?

March 15, 2018, 07:42 PM

Graniteguy

Wall preference?

I vote for no wall.

Eliminate all forms of social welfare for non-citizens and watch them all go home. Issue resolved within 12-months.

March 15, 2018, 07:47 PM

darthfuster

quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
So what stops someone from throwing a rope over the fence. Using a hook to grab the end on US side, then tie it off to fence or something on Mexican side?

I could defeat the wall with 100' of rope with a rock taped on one end, stick/pole with hook on the end, and knot tying expertise on the cub scouts level.

That's what the twin fifties are for.

March 15, 2018, 08:05 PM

kimber1911

Why are we trying to reinvent the wheel.

Here is what sounds good to me.

A "multi-layered fence system" with the IDF's preferred design having three fences, pyramid-shaped stacks of barbed wire on the two outer fences, a lighter-weight fence with intrusion detection equipment in the middle, an anti-vehicle ditch, patrol roads on both sides, and a smooth strip of sand for "intrusion tracking".

March 16, 2018, 07:39 AM

V-Tail

quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Eliminate all forms of social welfare for non-citizens and watch them all go home. Issue resolved within 12-months.

How about those who support themselves via criminal activity? Drug selling, robbery, auto theft, etc.

March 16, 2018, 08:43 AM

a1abdj

Many of you seem to be concerned about tossing a rope over the top and climbing over.

http://www.latimes.com/local/l...-20180119-story.html

quote:
Military special forces based in Florida and U.S. Customs and Border Protection special units spent three weeks trying to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the information was not authorized for public release.

A Customs and Border Protection report on the tests identifies strengths and flaws of each design but does not pick an overall winner or rank them, though it does point to see-through steel barriers topped by concrete as the best overall design, the official said.

The report recommends combining elements of each, depending on the terrain. The official likened it to a Lego design, pulling pieces from different prototypes.

quote:
The highly trained testers scaled 16 to 20 feet unassisted but needed help after that, said the official who described the assaults on the wall prototypes to the AP. Testers also expressed safety concerns about getting down from 30 feet.

Only once did a tester manage to land a hook on top of the wall without help, the official said. Tubes atop some models repelled climbing devices but wouldn't work in more mountainous areas because the terrain is too jagged.

The report favors steel at ground level because agents can see what is happening on the other side and holes can more easily be patched, the official said. With concrete, large slabs have to be replaced for even small breaches, which is time-consuming and expensive. Topping the steel with smooth concrete surfaces helps prevent climbing.

March 16, 2018, 09:24 AM

Warhorse

I believe it's past time...just put up the damn wall!!

March 16, 2018, 09:46 AM

BBMW

Or work for cash.

quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Eliminate all forms of social welfare for non-citizens and watch them all go home. Issue resolved within 12-months.
How about those who support themselves via criminal activity? Drug selling, robbery, auto theft, etc.

March 16, 2018, 09:50 AM

BBMW

I was going to say this. The wall will only slow them down slightly. Unless there are border patrol officers there to pick them up, they get over and just keep going.

quote:
Originally posted by still_bill:
Didn't Patton have something to say about fixed fortifications?

Why not a 1000% tariff on all goods coming from Mexico and the other countries as long as 1 illegal is in our country. This will pay for most of overhead they cause.

Bill

March 16, 2018, 11:32 AM

nhtagmember

just build the wall - it will deter most and free up CBP to deal with the more determined ones

also, all the money to build the wall will be spent here in the US hiring Americans...

its a win-win

March 16, 2018, 12:26 PM

slosig

quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy:
I vote for no wall.

Eliminate all forms of social welfare for non-citizens and watch them all go home. Issue resolved within 12-months.

Eliminate all forms of social welfare. Period. Return to “Root hog or die.” and it might not take 12 months for the problem to go away.

March 16, 2018, 03:39 PM

BBMW

I'm going to say something here, and some will not like it. A lot of Mexicans illegals come here and work like dogs for shit money. Why do you think they get hired. Those Mexicans wouldn't be going anywhere is welfare was eliminated.

quote:
Originally posted by slosig:
quote:
Originally posted by Graniteguy:
I vote for no wall.

Eliminate all forms of social welfare for non-citizens and watch them all go home. Issue resolved within 12-months.

Eliminate all forms of social welfare. Period. Return to “Root hog or die.” and it might not take 12 months for the problem to go away.

March 16, 2018, 04:17 PM

nhtagmember

and we need to severely punish employers who hire them

we need to make it untenable to live here, and we need to make it uncomfortable for those that hire them

take those two and the problem will solve itself

March 16, 2018, 04:19 PM

Sig209

same as I like my women:

tall and strong

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March 16, 2018, 04:21 PM

rusbro

quote:
Originally posted by Sig209:
same as I like my women:

tall and strong

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With a rounded top, and a see-through bottom.

March 16, 2018, 05:53 PM

Sig2340

quote:
Originally posted by Crom:

"But you can't shoot 2000 illegals crossing per day!!!"

Wanna bet?

March 16, 2018, 07:55 PM

flashguy

quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
quote:
Originally posted by Crom:

"But you can't shoot 2000 illegals crossing per day!!!"

Wanna bet?

I think it would be possible to make a good try at it.... (Not that I'm recommending it as policy--just confirming the possibility.)

flashguy

March 17, 2018, 09:50 AM

Sig Vicious

I prefer the one that Mexico pays for.

March 17, 2018, 10:26 AM

darthfuster

quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
quote:
Originally posted by Crom:

"But you can't shoot 2000 illegals crossing per day!!!"

Wanna bet?

You won't need to shoot 2000.