Ask yourselves why the don’t say diversity, equality and inclusion.

I read the article yesterday that PASig linked, was glad to see it was making front page news. For years I gave what I could, when I could to SA knowing that they helped whoever showed up, it mattered not. The usual check written in December for them went instead to the Angel Tree outreach of my local church.

This is what the left focuses on, create hate, create anger, create division, all the negative vibes, it’s their specialty.

I’m glad the SA showed their colors, now fuck ya!

Well, unlike some of you guys, I took the high road- I sent them a sincere apology for my wicked white ways and privilege. I also included a statement that I was using my white-ass privilege of choice and sending their donation to Children's hospitals. I also respectfully demanded they remove my name from their mailing list! I feel so much better now that my soul has been cleaned!

Local news station ran a story the other day that the Salvation Army Roanoke was down over 50k. They also reported that they only were able to setup about 25% of the kettles due to a near complete lack of volunteers to ring the bell.

they blamed Covid. Not a single mention of the "I'm Sorry I am white" campaign."

How much of the general public is aware of the “wokeness” issue?
My only regular exposure to the major news reporting businesses is The Wall Street Journal, and I’ve seen only two articles, one of which was early and very brief. Is the rest of the BS media covering it? If not, where are all the walk-by donators getting the story? Is it something the leftists are playing up to justify and support the SA’s action and it backfired?

(This is the sort of thing why I asked.)

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Originally posted by redstone:
Not a single mention of the "I'm Sorry I am white" campaign."

I have not seen it covered in any media locally. I do not watch any mainstream media, but I doubt they would cover it.
Come to think of it, Sig Forum is the only place I've read about the SA wokeness.

I honestly don't know, sigfreund, but the SA has reported precipitous drops in participation and donations, so somebody must be getting the message.

There are so many more mixed-race advertisements these days ... but many appear rushed. Some of the models, you can tell their hearts are not in it, or the couples do not look like they'd be couples or something ... Maybe it is Wokeness Overload? Even former Philadelphia Mayor Nutter had this to say about acting** DA Larry Krasner:

"I have to wonder what kind of messed up world of white wokeness Krasner is living in to have so little regard for human lives ... "

https://philadelphia.cbslocal....-krasner-jim-kenney/

** for now ...

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
I honestly don't know, sigfreund, but the SA has reported precipitous drops in participation and donations, so somebody must be getting the message.

My point is that TSA is blaming fears about COVID.
We can believe what we want about whether that’s justified for whatever reasons, but if the masses are exposed to one story (i.e., the dangers of the disease) and not the other (TSA’s “wokeness”), which is more likely to be the cause of lower participatory support? Even in my small rural community voluntary mask use is visibly increasing after having dropped to almost nothing at one time.

I admit that lower donations are harder to blame on the pandemic fears, but it would be interesting to know if other charities have seen lower support. If so, a couple of reasons come to mind that are indirectly related to the pandemic, but also the general state of the nation could be a factor. I read reports of increased consumer spending, and why is that? Is it as some have speculated because people have funds that they didn’t spend on things like dining out? If so, why not giving as well as spending? Then there’s the inflation. Are people concerned enough to think, “Spend it now on the things I want and need before it becomes worth less or before the things I want become unavailable,” and charities aren’t high on the list of what they’re thinking of these days?

To return to TSA, I wonder how much they actually collect from direct drops into the kettles versus the kettles’ serving as a reminder to people who make donations via other means. Do the “coins” really amount to that much? If the kettles aren’t there does that affect other donations?

Added: And even though I know that some will ignorantly or deliberately misinterpret my comments despite anything else I say, I’ll make one effort: I become annoyed every time I read the claims about racism we’re exposed to these days, and I can only marvel at how stupid those responsible for this action by TSA were. I always believe, though, that we should be governed by critical thinking rather than emotion. What’s more, in a case like this it doesn’t ultimately matter what the truth is, what matters is what general perceptions are based on. If most people have never heard of TSA’s push toward wokeness and believe the claim that donations and participation are down because of pandemic fears, that’s what will influence what other people and companies do as well—and no matter what a few of the rest of us may like to believe to the contrary.

Between my wife an myself, I think we get out 3 or 4 times a week for trips to Walmart, Dillons, etc. I think I saw 1 bell ringer this season. Saw several stands, with no little red bucket, and no bell ringer.

Guess bell ringers were in short supply, at least around here.

sigfreund, you bring up a lot of good questions.

I can't help but think word of mouth has spread the news of SA. I for one have told a few people about this news and they most likely would not have heard about it otherwise. And perhaps they did too.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
How much of the general public is aware of the “wokeness” issue?...

As usual, you ask good questions, and questions that I don't have any direct information to offer as answers...but I'll mention that only yesterday, local radio news repeatedly ran a story that local Salvation Army chapters would be giving away 2000 meals on Christmas day that could either be eaten inside or taken home, between 11AM and 1 PM today, and this same effort was being made in several cities throughout the local region. (It wasn't clear but I took the report to mean 2000 meals offered at each TSA site in the various cities in the region). Not a single mention of any downturn in charitable donations or concerns over C-19, so take that as anecdotal.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
...I admit that lower donations are harder to blame on the pandemic fears, but it would be interesting to know if other charities have seen lower support. If so, a couple of reasons come to mind that are indirectly related to the pandemic, but also the general state of the nation could be a factor. I read reports of increased consumer spending, and why is that? Is it as some have speculated because people have funds that they didn’t spend on things like dining out? If so, why not giving as well as spending? Then there’s the inflation. Are people concerned enough to think, “Spend it now on the things I want and need before it becomes worth less or before the things I want become unavailable,” and charities aren’t high on the list of what they’re thinking of these days?...

When it was first reported that TSA was seeing a significant downturn in donations, reportedly due to both donors' and bell ringers' fears of C-19 and also to inflationary economic pressures, one of the first counter arguments to that claim that came to my mind was Colorado Gives Day. Colorado Gives Day is a charitable fund raising effort that occurs the day after Cyber Monday, and has repeatedly set records in charitable donations, and this most recent effort three weeks ago set yet another record in giving. Being a mostly online donation effort, it's somewhat immune to donors and workers concerns over contracting C-19, but Colorado Gives Day's continued success seems to dispel the notion that donors are so concerned about economic inflationary pressures that it affects their charitable totals.. although I suppose that the different collection models could play a part as well.. ie the CGD online donation vs. TSA red kettle donation.

Here's an article on this year's CGD success. There is an embedded news report video and hyperlinks at the linked website article:

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Colorado Gives Day raises record-breaking number

Colorado Gives Day is a 24-hour period of online giving and a movement to celebrate and encourage philanthropy throughout Colorado.

Author: Alexander Kirk
Published: 9:55 AM MST December 6, 2021
Updated: 4:57 AM MST December 8, 2021

DENVER — Update: The 12th Colorado Gives Day on Tuesday, Dec. 7 raised a record-breaking $54,409,297 million for 3,063 participating Colorado nonprofits.

The 24-hour online giving event saw gifts from more than 72,232 unique donors through 215,864 donations.

“We are blown away and humbled by the generosity shown to Colorado nonprofits on Colorado Gives Day,” said Kelly Dunkin, president and CEO of Community First Foundation, the organization that created the giving event. “Coloradans recognize and appreciate the value our nonprofits give in helping everyone in our community thrive. From ensuring people have food and housing to supporting mental wellness to making the arts accessible to all – it all becomes possible when donors make good happen.”

Donors represented 10 countries and all 50 states plus Puerto Rico, Armed Forces Europe, Armed Forces Pacific, and Federates States of Micronesia.

“Community First Foundation founded Colorado Gives Day to provide an easy way for everyone to support their communities by donating to local nonprofits online,” said Erica Thornley, vice president of product development and ColoradoGives. “Online giving and events like Colorado Gives Day make it possible for anyone to be a philanthropist.”

Colorado Gives Day has raised more than $361 million since it launched in 2010 and the ColoradoGives.org online giving site has raised more than $486 million since it went live in 2007, said the Community First Foundation.

If you’re looking for an easy way to give back this holiday season, you can donate to your favorite Colorado nonprofits on Colorado Gives Day.

The 12th annual day of giving in the Centennial State lands on Tuesday, Dec. 7 beginning at 12 a.m.

The day is powered by ColoradoGives.org – a year-round website featuring more than 3,000 nonprofits. The program encourages people to "give where you live" and allows people to choose nonprofits that appeal to their passions.

Donations can be made on Colorado Gives Day or scheduled online in advance. Those donations scheduled ahead of time will count toward the total for Colorado Gives Day.

This year Colorado Gives Day will have a $1.6-million-dollar incentive fund provided by the Community First Foundation, FirstBank and other community members.

The fund is proportionally allocated to each non-profit that receives donations. So, if the one non-profit receives one-tenth the total giving on Colorado Gives Day, it would get one-tenth of the incentive fund, meaning every nonprofit that receives a gift on Colorado Gives Day gets an added boost.

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one of the first counter arguments to that claim that came to my mind was Colorado Gives Day.

Thank you. Helps answer my question and very good to know.

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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
If you’re looking for an easy way to give back this holiday season, ...

Sure-fire way to get me to shun something like this is to refer to my charitable donations as "giving back."

When I donate to a charitable cause I'm not "giving back" anything. I'm expressing charity.

This is the first Christmas season in decades, that I walked by the bell ringers without dropping in some cash. I will not support any organization, not even a penny, and forever, that publishes any anti-white rhetoric.

Mrs df and I gave our charitable donations to a different establishment. We read this list of needs and the options for help. We were inspired to give out of gratitude for what we’ve been given. No one asked us to apologize for things we did not do nor for characteristics we cannot change.

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This is the first Christmas season in decades, that I walked by the bell ringers without dropping in some cash. I will not support any organization, not even a penny, and forever, that publishes any anti-white rhetoric.

Same here. Told my wife and kids to do the same. I just doubled down on my donation to St Jude's.

Get woke, go broke. Let this be a cautionary tale for others.

Naturally, they are using the excuse of COVID to explain why their donations are down.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wokeism is brain damage.