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Originally posted by braillediver:
It's sad- The people on the ground doing the work of the SA are probably the same people who have always dedicated themselves to doing the work that makes them special. I doubt the leadership of the SA reflects the beliefs of the people who actually do the work.

Why would they let politics subvert the good that they do?

Because Leftists...

Lucky for them there is already a national coin shortage going on......

They are Leftists. They’ll learn all the wrong lessons from this.

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They are Leftists. They’ll learn all the wrong lessons from this.

they will learn nothing from it and blame everybody else in the process

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Originally posted by signewt:

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They are Leftists. They’ll learn all the wrong lessons from this.

they will learn nothing from it and blame everybody else in the process

They will learn that their perspective is confirmed. Whitey is too racist to apologize and too proud to change. All the wrong lessons.

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They will learn that their perspective is confirmed.

My model of the internal decision makers of the SA organization may be simplistic and in error.
My impression is a newer smaller faction has influenced the older leadership.

Those convinced of their perspective are not looking to change it regardless. IMHO.

Googled a couple of news articles. They're blaming Covid. No mention of the apology thing.

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Originally posted by signewt:

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They are Leftists. They’ll learn all the wrong lessons from this.

they will learn nothing from it and blame everybody else in the process

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Googled a couple of news articles. They're blaming Covid. No mention of the apology thing.

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Originally posted by signewt:

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They are Leftists. They’ll learn all the wrong lessons from this.

they will learn nothing from it and blame everybody else in the process

That's the super power Covid has. It can be blamed for everything, credited for somethings, used for many things and make some people rich and others poor all at the same time.

I saw a SA kettle guy this morning while I was out shopping. He was as lonesome as the Maytag repairman!!

The Salvation Army set up a mobile command post in Mayfield, KY. As much as I want to dislike them, they and the Red Cross were some of the first to send support to the scene Friday night. I had 9 hours off total between 9 PM Friday, and 0500 Monday morning.

The Salvation Army and the Red Cross were there and really active at their base camp at Mayfield High School. I drove through during the over night Saturday and Sunday many times and they were hard at it.

It’s a sample size of one, take it for what it is worth.

(I’m not discounting the subject of this thread, just offering some perspective)

From the Treehouse. . .

Stunning Stupidity – The Salvation Army Discovers Meaning of Get Woke, Go Broke.

As President Trump said not too long ago. . .

“Everything woke turns to shit.”

So true.

Another article from 12/16:

Salvation Army ditched by donors and volunteers after disastrous release of 'anti-racism' guide


It's almost like "Get Woke, Go Broke" happens EVERY TIME it's tried...almost like a law of physics

Will these dumbasses ever learn?

Starting to get more coverage, it seems. An opinion piece from The Wall Street Journal. I am curious, though, whether the BS media (which I do not follow) is covering this. I can see why they would studiously ignore it.
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Wokeness Infiltrates the Salvation Army

HOUSES OF WORSHIP

By Kenny Xu

Although the Salvation Army was founded in London in 1865, it’s in America that its Red Kettles have become a Christmas staple. The Salvationists have earned broad respect in American society after more than a century of charitable giving, but an internal coalition of woke ideologues now endangers the organization’s reputation.

This year the Salvation Army’s International Social Justice Commission published a discussion guide called “Let’s Talk About Racism.” The document, its authors say, was “designed to stimulate gracious discussion among Salvationists who choose to participate.” But its radical woke overtones against American Christians seem to make such gracious discussion impossible.

“Why is it so difficult to acknowledge the sin of racism and the seeking of God’s forgiveness both individually as believers and corporately as the Church for our complicity in racism?” the document suggests as a conversation starter. It also called on Salvationists to “stop trying to be ‘colorblind’ ” and to “ lament, repent and apologize” for their biases against people of color in America. Much time is spent explaining why the U.S. is racist.

“We must stop denying the existence of individual and systemic/institutional racism,” the materials say. “They exist, and are still at work to keep White Americans in power.”

After a torrent of criticism, the document was taken down in November, with a statement that said the “guide led some to believe we think they should apologize for the color of their skin, or that The Salvation Army may have abandoned its Biblical beliefs for another philosophy or ideology. That was never our intention, so the guide has been removed for appropriate review.”

It’s bizarre that the guide was ever published. Especially since it came with an endorsement from the Salvation Army’s highest-ranking official, Brian Peddle, who is from Canada. Mr. Peddle said of “Let’s Talk About Racism” that it “guides gracious discussions about overcoming the damage racism has inflicted upon our world and yes, on our Salvation Army.”

Of all the organizations to describe as racist, the Salvation Army is particularly unlikely. It released one of the world’s first nondiscrimination ordinances in 1898. I have been told that some 60% of its service in the U.S. is dedicated to minority populations.

It’s true that the army’s higher-ranking officials are disproportionately white, reflecting the organization's origins in Britain and the U.S. But there is no question that these intergenerational families’ commitments are sincere, and the Salvation Army has been getting significantly more racially diverse over the past 50 years. It appointed its first black national commander, Israel Gaither, in 2006. Mr. Gaither has said that “the future is absolutely wide open to African-American Salvationists who would be available for God’s use as officers.”

Strange as it may seem, the document is standard fare for an expanding “diversity, equity and inclusion” bureaucracy within even such organizations as the Salvation Army, relying on a narrative of systemic racism to justify the administrators’ roles. The Salvation Army has installed two new DEI directors with the goal of having a DEI representative in “every

Perhaps the Salvation Army went this route to court more corporate giving. Large corporations are abuzz with DEI in this current national moment, and access to corporate funds likely requires a certain level of wokespeak.

Yet in the process of chasing corporations, the Salvation Army is alienating ordinary givers like the ones who faithfully donate to the Red Kettle campaign. The organization Color Us United, of which I serve as president, has organized a broad base of more than 16,000 donors who have started speaking up. Richard Nakano, a second-generation Salvation Army donor, wrote that until the Salvation Army “admits its error, denounces these woke views and turns back to its original foundations, I will NOT support it—financially or otherwise.”

The Salvation Army has suggested the guide will be replaced. It should release a statement making clear that America isn’t a racist country. This is a moment of the organization’s leaders to truly take a stand against wokeness and for the ordinary goodness of its members and the country that serves them, as they have done throughout its history.

Mr. Xu is president of Color Us United.

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We donate stuff to the Salvation Army all the time - or, we did donate. We will not be donating to them in the future.

I carefully considered my inherent racism and decided to give money to the CIA Officers' Memorial Foundation.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:


Wokeness Infiltrates the Salvation Army...

Kinda what I thought. Not so much from the top down but rather from middling functionaries who have way too much say in today's world of toxic priorities. Here's hoping the SA has enough invested in its service to buck the trend and make some sort of stand. Do that and they'd need Brinks trucks to pick up the pots.

Well, got this information and passed it along to my wife.
Both agree - they're off the back and no more donations.

St. Jude and Children's Hospital will get all our donation $$ from now on.

Goodwill will get clothing, etc.

I also donate to Mercy Chefs and the local Union Gospel Mission, and several times a year to the Shriners' Hospitals. Occasional donations to various local LEO groups, too. Some contributions via my church's connections.

My usual donation to SA had already been made when the news about their falling from grace came out. I always liked using them because about 85% of the money received actually is used for good. I suspect that is still true. As such, it is the most "charitable" charity. (They do need to fire all those DEI officers, though--a charity does not need them.)

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:

My usual donation to SA had already been made when the news about their falling from grace came out. I always liked using them because about 85% of the money received actually is used for good. I suspect that is still true. As such, it is the most "charitable" charity. (They do need to fire all those DEI officers, though--a charity does not need them.)

flashguy

Might be interesting to know how much they pay those DEI officers.