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$560M Powerball winner refuses to claim prize
March 12, 2018, 04:19 PM
ChicagoSigMan$560M Powerball winner refuses to claim prize
Im not surprised they ruled this way.
I am surprised that the state lottery was so eager to name her that they would go to court over it.
In Florida, this wouldn't be an issue. State law does not allow for anonymity of lottery winners. You can form a trust for estate planning purposes but you still have to provide your real name, which can be and is always disclosed.
March 12, 2018, 04:51 PM
LS1 GTOWhile I am surprised I am also happy for her and hoping there can be a nationwide change in the system.
Why should a person suddenly be inundated with all every form of [targeted] sob stories and scams out there?
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March 12, 2018, 04:55 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Im not surprised they ruled this way.
I am surprised that the state lottery was so eager to name her that they would go to court over it.
In Florida, this wouldn't be an issue. State law does not allow for anonymity of lottery winners. You can form a trust for estate planning purposes but you still have to provide your real name, which can be and is always disclosed.
Don’t you think the bureaucracy is unable to vary or interpret the statutory language, while the court is able to excuse slight discrepancies, “tie goes to the runner,” “horseshoes and hand grenades, close counts,” Etc?
It is not strictly precedential, but it is precedential imformally.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown March 12, 2018, 04:57 PM
Expert308From the article linked by Paten:
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In his order, Judge Charles Temple said the woman -- known as "Jane Doe" in her lawsuit against the New Hampshire Lottery Commission -- had proven that her right to privacy outweighed the public's interest in learning her name.
Exactly what "public interest" is served by publishing her name? None that I can see.
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However, Temple added that nothing in his order could be interpreted to prevent the lottery commission or its employees from "processing, maintaining, or accessing Ms. Doe's ticket in the normal course of business."
This will cover the person who "accidentally" leaks her name to the press.
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The woman's attorney, William Shaheen, said the woman is from Merrimack, 25 miles south of the state capital, Concord. The winning ticket in the Jan. 6 market was sold at the Reeds Ferry Market in that town.
Well, he might as well have just printed her name himself.
She never had a prayer of remaining anonymous, and still doesn't.
March 12, 2018, 07:31 PM
tatortoddIt might not be over for this case.
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"While we were expecting a different outcome and believed the state had a strong argument, we respect the court's decision," Charlie McIntyre, commission executive director, said in a statement. "That said, we will consult with the Attorney General's office to determine appropriate next steps regarding the case."
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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. March 12, 2018, 08:17 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
It might not be over for this case.
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"While we were expecting a different outcome and believed the state had a strong argument, we respect the court's decision," Charlie McIntyre, commission executive director, said in a statement. "That said, we will consult with the Attorney General's office to determine appropriate next steps regarding the case."
Maybe. I have never heard of a losing litigant saying after receiving the decision and thinking it over say, “Well, I guess we were just wrong.”
They were right, the judge/jury got it wrong, misunderstood, didn’t realize....., failed to consider, was biased against us, was canoodeling the other side, etc., never we were wrong.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown March 12, 2018, 10:12 PM
tatortoddquote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
It might not be over for this case.
quote:
"While we were expecting a different outcome and believed the state had a strong argument, we respect the court's decision," Charlie McIntyre, commission executive director, said in a statement. "That said, we will consult with the Attorney General's office to determine appropriate next steps regarding the case."
Maybe. I have never heard of a losing litigant saying after receiving the decision and thinking it over say, “Well, I guess we were just wrong.”
They were right, the judge/jury got it wrong, misunderstood, didn’t realize....., failed to consider, was biased against us, was canoodeling the other side, etc., never we were wrong.
It doesn't sound like you worked for a large company. Obviously, nobody says it publicly, but lose a case and the long knives come out. Instead of saying, “Well, I guess we were just wrong” they say, "I've been telling you sons of bitches to settle" or "I've been telling you that you had the wrong strategy."
Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity
DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. March 12, 2018, 10:49 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
It might not be over for this case.
quote:
"While we were expecting a different outcome and believed the state had a strong argument, we respect the court's decision," Charlie McIntyre, commission executive director, said in a statement. "That said, we will consult with the Attorney General's office to determine appropriate next steps regarding the case."
Maybe. I have never heard of a losing litigant saying after receiving the decision and thinking it over say, “Well, I guess we were just wrong.”
They were right, the judge/jury got it wrong, misunderstood, didn’t realize....., failed to consider, was biased against us, was canoodeling the other side, etc., never we were wrong.
It doesn't sound like you worked for a large company. Obviously, nobody says it publicly, but lose a case and the long knives come out. Instead of saying, “Well, I guess we were just wrong” they say, "I've been telling you sons of bitches to settle" or "I've been telling you that you had the wrong strategy."
Oh, I’ve heard that, probably even said it more than once but never heard anyone say they were wrong. Big difference.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown March 13, 2018, 11:55 AM
bendablequote:
Why should a person suddenly be inundated with all every form of [targeted] sob stories and scams out there?
if all 400 people of the the state and lottery commission are the most honest people on the planet , no , no one should have to go through that.
but the first time that Jenny and Joe sticky fingers decides to be dishonest , by not really winning the lottery , but accepting the prize money , because there is no way to trace who actually gets the money , then what ?
out of four hundred people that you know personally , how many have never , ever, lied cheated , stolen or deceived?
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March 13, 2018, 12:03 PM
BBMWBecause there is a public interest in knowing who the winner is. What happens if the name is released, and someone figures out that the winner has some sort of connection to lottery officials? That would be something I think the public would want to know.
Edit: And I didn't see that Bendable beat me to it
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
While I am surprised I am also happy for her and hoping there can be a nationwide change in the system.
Why should a person suddenly be inundated with all every form of [targeted] sob stories and scams out there?
March 13, 2018, 12:40 PM
nhtagmemberI think the bigger issue nationwide with lottery winners is the numbers that have been specifically targeted by criminals once their names have been published, along with their photographs...
if I recall, several recent lottery winners have been killed
I probably know the lady, Merrimack is a moderately small New England town where everyone knows everyone, and I'm willing to bet that a lot of people already know who she is but will respect her privacy
besides, the State already got the money from the players - why do they care beyond that?
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March 13, 2018, 02:28 PM
newtoSig765quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
...if I recall, several recent lottery winners have been killed...
I know of at least three here in Illinois: A man in Downers Grove, I think, poisoned most likely by his wife, and a mother and son both murdered in their home in Sycamore.
In both cases, prizes were under $1 million, and the murders go unsolved. Think of the temptation a large jackpot would present.
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March 13, 2018, 03:10 PM
RichardCWell, its not like we've let 12 million lawbreakers into the USA from parts of the world where kidnapping and ransom is an integral part of the culture.
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