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July 22, 2017, 11:34 AM
Ronin1069
58 year old Starbuck's customer foils robbery with a chair....<video>
The dramatic moment a heroic Starbucks customer beat down an armed robber with a chair has been caught on video.

Hero Cregg Jerri, 58, and suspect Ryan Michael Florez, 30, were both stabbed in the struggle for the suspect's knife during a stickup at a Starbucks in Fresno, California on Thursday.

Police said that Florez fled the scene and later claimed to be a victim of the robbery, but was identified as the robber with the help of surveillance video, according to the Fresno Bee.

He was armed with a large knife and replica handgun, according to police.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...ber-armed-knife.html

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July 22, 2017, 11:42 AM
Silent
Cregg Jerri! Way to stand and be counted on! He's the type of "community activist" we need.

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July 22, 2017, 11:42 AM
sigmonkey
Never interrupt an old man when he's trying to drink his coffee. Never, ever do that.




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July 22, 2017, 11:56 AM
ZSMICHAEL
I bet the old man drinks his coffee black.
July 22, 2017, 12:00 PM
Paten
If the customer stops the robbery no one gets fired.
July 22, 2017, 12:44 PM
Tailhook 84
Personal Lessons Learned from the video:

1. Don't go into battle wearing flip-flops.

2. Don't half-ass the initial attack, especially if you have the advantage of surprise.

3. Don't expect help from anybody else in the place.




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July 22, 2017, 12:50 PM
Orguss
Optimus Prime, give up your life of crime and go back to fighting the Decepticons!

I like how that one Starbucks employee is calmly wiping tables down with a smile on her face while the old man gets up to do some work.



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July 22, 2017, 12:53 PM
vinnybass
quote:
Originally posted by Tailhook 84:
Personal Lessons Learned from the video:

1. Don't go into battle wearing flip-flops.

Agreed, but sometimes you gotta "run what you brung."

2. Don't half-ass the initial attack, especially if you have the advantage of surprise.

Yup. That was the time for a devastating, debilitating blow to finish it quickly.

3. Don't expect help from anybody else in the place.

True. I find it surprising the number of people who've never been in a fistfight/streetfight.




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July 22, 2017, 01:30 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by Tailhook 84:

2. Don't half-ass the initial attack, especially if you have the advantage of surprise.

-Yep, he should have unleashed hell with that chair. Good on him for fighting, but he could use some Gracie Combatives training in case there is a next time.


3. Don't expect help from anybody else in the place.
....in a liberal enclave like a Starbucks in California. In a place like a Waffle House in Alabama, its a going to be a different story. Heck, even a Starbucks in Alabama is likely to have a different outcome regarding help.


July 22, 2017, 01:45 PM
ChicagoSigMan
Watching that video, the perp held on to the gun for a while. The whole thing could have gone either way for awhile. Good on the guy for taking action but he really should have ended it with the first blow with the chair.
July 22, 2017, 01:46 PM
JRC
And no one helped the good citizen out...sad what our society has succumbed to Mad

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July 22, 2017, 01:49 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by vinnybass:

2. Don't half-ass the initial attack, especially if you have the advantage of surprise.

Yup. That was the time for a devastating, debilitating blow to finish it quickly.


Agreed, and also when the customer had the perp on the floor just randomly punching his back, he really needed to avoid that and basically disable the robber with a hard downward stomping kick to a knee or elbow. This was not a "fight" but a struggle to stop the crime and stay alive. He needed to inflict instant pain, disable and end the threat quickly.



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July 22, 2017, 01:56 PM
12131
That was a toy gun. That's why the maggot pulled out the knife subsequently,.... and holding both gun and knife with the same hand. Roll Eyes

Clearly amateur. Probably a millennial living in his mother's basement.


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July 22, 2017, 02:19 PM
Timdogg6
WTF is with the lady washing the table just watching at .40 into the video. people piss me off.


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July 22, 2017, 03:00 PM
Tailhook 84
quote:
Originally posted by vinnybass:
quote:
Originally posted by Tailhook 84:
Personal Lessons Learned from the video:

1. Don't go into battle wearing flip-flops.

Agreed, but sometimes you gotta "run what you brung."

Mr. Jerri wasn't involved until he chose to get involved (and good on him for doing so, at some level). But flip-flops are made for cruising, and just cruising on outta there and being a good witness to the situation was another option available to him. Those tactical flip-flops he was running put him at a disadvantage. He may have been better off barefoot for movement purposes.




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July 22, 2017, 03:32 PM
BB61
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Never interrupt an old man when he's trying to drink his coffee. Never, ever do that.


EXCUSE ME, OLD MAN?!?! I'm almost 58 and that hurt. Wink


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July 22, 2017, 03:36 PM
sgalczyn
quote:
Originally posted by BB61:
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Never interrupt an old man when he's trying to drink his coffee. Never, ever do that.


EXCUSE ME, OLD MAN?!?! I'm almost 58 and that hurt. Wink



No offense taken here----55--don't EVER phuq with my coffee


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July 22, 2017, 03:39 PM
sgalczyn
quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
quote:
Originally posted by vinnybass:
Yup. That was the time for a devastating, debilitating blow to finish it quickly.


Agreed, and also when the customer had the perp on the floor just randomly punching his back, he really needed to avoid that and basically disable the robber with a hard downward stomping kick to a knee or elbow.



NO - prefer he connected base of the skull - stomp the top of the spinal column - he;ll comply!


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July 22, 2017, 04:11 PM
gearhounds
Round these parts, that guy would have been caught in a crossfire from all the CCW's Big Grin




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July 22, 2017, 04:27 PM
nhtagmember
and not one chickenshit employee had the balls to help the old guy

Fresno's finest Frown



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