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non ducor, duco |
We've had this topic on the forums at least 4 or 5 times before and it always ends up with people siding one way or the other. Sunday drivers complain about everyone and people trying to move along fluidly complain about sunday drivers. Lost cause. First In Last Out | |||
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| Doin' what I can with what I got  |
The easy solution to this is to make three failure to yield / left lane loitering tickets grounds for automatic suspension of license, and driving without a license an automatic 1 year of prison time. I've got no beef with Sunday drivers provided they stay in the right lane and occasionally let people by them in areas where they're impeding traffic. I do have a beef with them when they're to oblivious or self-absorbed to do either. If they're too oblivious, they might as well be texting and driving like those teenagers they complain about. If they're too self-absorbed or entitled, well, they can be as entitled as they want riding the bus, in my opinion. Edit to add: I could care less about people who are actually driving a reasonable speed. Being stuck in traffic is being stuck in traffic. It's the folks beeboppin' along well under the limit, and or forming rolling roadblocks, that really grind my gears. ---------------------------------------- Death smiles at us all. Be sure you smile back. | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
Right on. Right on. Right on. _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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Stangosaurus Rex |
In south Florida I see it as the growing attitude of "I'm going to drive any lane I want at any speed I want, turn signals are for everybody else and it's your job to keep your car out of my way no matter where I point mine" most of the problems I see are lack of driver's education and driver's from countries that drive on the opposite side that we do, they think the left lane is the slow down, lift your chin up, don't look in the mirror and drive slow lane! ___________________________ "I Get It Now" Beth Greene | |||
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| Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
There really is no reason for anyone to do better. Even if they are charged with all the traffic offenses in the book, their license taken, and their car impounded, people just drive anyway, using couzin Bob's car, or having their girlfriend rent them one. No insurance. Paper temporary tag, no registration. Why not? We can't keep people in jail for shooting each other. Hell, cop killers get paroled. The justice system doesn't give a crap about people violating traffic laws, unless it's someone's 5th DWI and they killed a family in a wreck. And even then, it's not a slam-dunk. It would baffle you guys to know the ration of unlicensed/suspended/uninsured/unregistered drivers to completely legal that I deal with. There is no reason for them to change. Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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| Ammoholic |
Yes. I actually have a British driver’s license and drove over there during the year and a half I worked there a little over thirty years ago. Driving a car was no big deal, but driving a motorcycle in London was eye opening to say the least. In 2001, I drove in Italy for three weeks during a vacation there with Mrs slosig. The enduring memory of that was the sign behind the bars in the stops on the Autostrada (small enclosed stop with gas station, minimart of sorts, and public restrooms. Absolutely nowhere you can go after except for right back on the Autostrada.). The sign said something to the effect of, “For safety reasons, we will not sell hard liquor after 1AM.” Beer and wine were still good to go though. Go figure. Don’t remember much about the driving habits other than they didn’t park in the fast lane. Just went back to Italy late March into early April for a two and a half week family vacation. Was astounded at the driving, especially in the south. It was at the same time very aggressive and polite. Drivers would be flying around budging in, jockeying for position and yet when a pedestrian would jump out in front of them they would stop handily with no drama and 14 drivers behind them wouldn’t plow into their backsides. It was almost as if they were actually present and paying attention to their driving instead of having their heads up their electronic devices. When we got back and on a three lane stretch of the 101, I remarked to my sixteen year old son that in Italy that road would have been striped for at least four lanes if not five and they’d have at least one if not two more rows of cars than whatever the striped lane count was. We both laughed, but it was true and they’d have done it with less accidents. I can’t speak authoritatively for the rest of the country, having driven only a bit in a handful of other states, but CA drivers are completely comatose at the wheel by comparison to drivers in Britain, Germany, or Italy. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
I don’t know about losing one, but you actually have to be able to drive to get one. When I got mine a little over thirty years ago the first time failure rate was over sixty percent. There were many things you could lose points for, one of them being “Failure to proceed.” Pull up to a stop sign to make a right turn (like making a left here, have to cross opposite direction traffic to get to the lane), stop, have an acceptable, but not generous window to go and wait for a better window? You just lost a point. At that time Great Britain had more cars per mile of road than any other country and they didn’t make it work by stalling around. I don’t now if I had a good driver’s training instructor over there, was just lucky, or (more likely) both, but I got through the first time. I knew a lot of folks who didn’t and it was no great shame. It was a tough test. | |||
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It was a sad day for me when I read that Egan was retiring from his monthly column in R&T. His column was the first thing I'd read in a new issue, and I'd turn to it as soon as the new issue arrived. God bless America. | |||
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Great GooglyMoogly, what a bunch of whiners! This is America, love it or leave it!  ____________________ | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
We should be taught and allowed to pit left lane bandits. Install big ol brush guards on the front and go all mad max lol | |||
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Corgis Rock |
Paint Ball Guns. You buy 5 paint balls a month. They are only good for the month. You see an idiot driver. You may fire once. When the idiot collects 5 hits, the car is impounded for a month. Heck, at least you get the satisfaction of shooting the idiot. “ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. | |||
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Amen. And Ze smartphone. The pairing of the app enabled computer phone and slushbox = diarrhea on the roads 24/7. Driving now is a complete shit show. I wish the license testing was significantly more stringent. It’s a privilege not a right. Phone driving = DUI, and I’d love to be a cop for a few days locking up every mother fucking inattentive driver. I’d have to get a mic and a 100 TB drive to store all the whining and crying in the back seat on the way to jail. It’s a got damn epidemic. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
I lived in Germany 1977-1980 and the situation was very different there. Not every German had a driver's license---it required a 6-week school, about $500 fee, and a very strict test in order to get one, and those that had one were very careful to drive such that they could keep it. Traffic laws were very strictly enforced--hogging the passing lane on the Autobahn was a big no-no, and anyone who tried it would find a Mercedes on the rear bumper furiously flashing its lights! OTOH, if one were interested in seeing horrible drivers, my experience in Tehran, Iran in 1970 would suffice. It is hard to put into words the weird stuff they did over there, so I won't try. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Speaking as an ex-auto insurance agent, this is exactly correct. EasyFire EasyFire [AT] zianet.com ---------------------------------- NRA Certified Pistol Instructor Colorado Concealed Handgun Permit Instructor Nationwide Agent for > US LawShield > https://www.texaslawshield.com...p.php?promo=ondemand CCW Safe > www.ccwsafe.com/CCHPI | |||
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אַרְיֵה |
A bit over thirty years ago I worked for a guy who decided that the best combination of sporty and useful was a Volvo equipped with the fairly new, at the time, turbo engine. I asked him why, if he wanted sporty, he had opted for the automatic transmission. He replied that it was harder to jot down notes while driving with a manual transmission.  הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Lead, follow, or get out of the way works in a variety of settings. Be it the grocery store, theme park or American highway. | |||
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| Saluki |
Everything you need to know about Americas drivers can be explained by the self driving car push. People are too damned busy with fuckery to be bothered with driving their damned car. ----------The weather is here I wish you were beautiful---------- | |||
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| אַרְיֵה |
Well said. Too many zombies blocking progress, totally unaware of their surroundings. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Our kids took drivers Ed, but I also taught all them how to drive. I was not about to leave their safe driving instruction to someone I do not know. NRA Life Endowment member Tri-State Gun collectors Life Member | |||
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