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As most of you all know I am a bus driver for a local school district. I have many new experiences driving the kids. Yesterday morning during was another. HS run with nine students on we were sitting in traffic waiting for a semaphore to change the bus gets a good hit from behind. I respond with a verbal Whoh. Then check with all of the students to make sure they are not injured. I call into base and let them know the accident had occurred and all on the bus were un injured and my location. They have computer program that has all of the buses location so even if I was not able to give them the location they could find me.

The students did excellent we are trained to keep them on the bus unless there is a fire. Getting the students seat location and waiting for the first responders to arrive. The police, fire and rescue arrived five minutes or so later. They checked on us and secured the scene and took care of the suv driver that hit us.

The bus held up quite well the rear bumper and a rear corner panel was all that were damaged.
The SUV I would suspect is totaled.

The driver of the SUV was claiming heart pain.

The federal report was not too difficult and of course I had to piss is a bottle for the drug test. Now I get a few days off until the results come back. I tell you never a dull day driving for the kids.


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Glad all are fine. Driver probably was using their phone



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Glad all are fine. Driver probably was using their phone


I would suspect that also!


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How do you miss the big yellow bus?
 
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Glad you and the students are all OK.

Does the rear bumper on the bus have underride protection to prevent vehicle's hoods from going under it and prevent the inital collision from occurring at the vehicle's windshield? I used to design heavy haul custom trailers and we had to implement underride protection, but at the time it only applied to semi-trailers and not buses. However, that's been 30+ years and I haven't kept up.



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How do you miss the big yellow bus?

He didn’t

Sure glad you and the kids are ok


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2 of my daughters have had 'collision' incidents on the bus.

Middle daughter, called us saying 'the bus is in the ditch'
Bus clipped a mailbox & stopped on the side of the road, passenger side tires in the grass, technically just in the 'ditch'

Oldest, just this week, bus hit a low branch & broke a mirror.

In both cases, the parent app reported it as a 'collision event' which always sounds worse than it is/was.
Was able to drive over & get them off the bus, rather than them sit & be super delayed.




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Glad you and the students are all OK.

Does the rear bumper on the bus have underride protection to prevent vehicle's hoods from going under it and prevent the inital collision from occurring at the vehicle's windshield? I used to design heavy haul custom trailers and we had to implement underride protection, but at the time it only applied to semi-trailers and not buses. However, that's been 30+ years and I haven't kept up.

The quick answer no underride bar. But The bumper height was that most of the damage to the SUV was mid radiator height. That would be an issue on a low riding car like an old MG or a Miata.


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2 of my daughters have had 'collision' incidents on the bus.

Middle daughter, called us saying 'the bus is in the ditch'
Bus clipped a mailbox & stopped on the side of the road, passenger side tires in the grass, technically just in the 'ditch'

Oldest, just this week, bus hit a low branch & broke a mirror.

In both cases, the parent app reported it as a 'collision event' which always sounds worse than it is/was.
Was able to drive over & get them off the bus, rather than them sit & be super delayed.


Yes the parent app is a great app it tells relative location speed of the bus. I wasn’t aware of the accident notification feature. I know when I was back at base doing paperwork the administration was notifying parents. I am sure most were already informed by cell phones the students have. One student was picked up by parents at scene. Administration was there taking photos of the scene.


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How do you miss the big yellow bus?

You would think not, but the number of stop arm violations reports I myself have made this year is staggering. We have cameras on the bus, a front facing stop arm camera on the side of the bus. I wish there was a rear facing camera to pickup plates on vehicles not having a front plate.
We submit all the video photos and reports to the local jurisdiction for violators. Most violations are located on two lanes with a center left turn lane. I would estimate my count over a hundred for the year. I had three Thursday on my PM HS route. Tourists looking for a destination and not watching the road. Some not realizing that they have to stop even with a center turn lane. Some on their phones texting. All, distracted by some means.


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2 of my daughters have had 'collision' incidents on the bus.

Middle daughter, called us saying 'the bus is in the ditch'
Bus clipped a mailbox & stopped on the side of the road, passenger side tires in the grass, technically just in the 'ditch'

Oldest, just this week, bus hit a low branch & broke a mirror.

In both cases, the parent app reported it as a 'collision event' which always sounds worse than it is/was.
Was able to drive over & get them off the bus, rather than them sit & be super delayed.


Yes the parent app is a great app it tells relative location speed of the bus. I wasn’t aware of the accident notification feature. I know when I was back at base doing paperwork the administration was notifying parents. I am sure most were already informed by cell phones the students have. One student was picked up by parents at scene. Administration was there taking photos of the scene.


Ours isn't that sophisticated, just the load/unload & 15 min out alerts. Wish it gave estimated position. We usually wait 15 min for it to arrive




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How do you miss the big yellow bus?

He didn’t

Sure glad you and the kids are ok


Thanks for the laugh.



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I have several school bus departments on my scanner, hardly a day goes by without hearing a driver call in an accident. Usually nothing major but lots of minor collisions.
 
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OMG! You can't believe it. It's almost like it's a fucking cloaking device!

Just a few days ago I almost got T boned, rear ended, and hit head on in a 30 minute Spain.

Plus, the stop arm ran twice! Yeah, big, yellow, 40 foot long, flashing lights, impossible to see.

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As most of you all know I am a bus driver for a local school district. I have many new experiences driving the kids. Yesterday morning during was another. HS run with nine students on we were sitting in traffic waiting for a semaphore to change the bus gets a good hit from behind. I respond with a verbal Whoh. Then check with all of the students to make sure they are not injured. I call into base and let them know the accident had occurred and all on the bus were un injured and my location. They have computer program that has all of the buses location so even if I was not able to give them the location they could find me.

The students did excellent we are trained to keep them on the bus unless there is a fire. Getting the students seat location and waiting for the first responders to arrive. The police, fire and rescue arrived five minutes or so later. They checked on us and secured the scene and took care of the suv driver that hit us.

The bus held up quite well the rear bumper and a rear corner panel was all that were damaged.
The SUV I would suspect is totaled.

The driver of the SUV was claiming heart pain.

The federal report was not too difficult and of course I had to piss is a bottle for the drug test. Now I get a few days off until the results come back. I tell you never a dull day driving for the kids.


Glad everyone is/was OK. I have had so many close calls it's unbelievable!

Years ago I had just dropped off my last elementary student and was driving down a neighborhood road and a guy on one of the large " almost " motorcycle high power scooters came off the main road a block away, at 45+ MPH, never slowed down/hit the brakes and hit me just under the stop arm on my Tomas C2. He hit me so hard that it put a hole in the side of my bus!

It almost killed him. Broke both legs, an arm, fracture his skull, fracture vertebrae, bite his tongue off, ruptured his spleen, and liver. Dislocated his left eye. Broke several ribs.

He was in a pool of blood, not breathing. He lived. But they didn't sight him.

A few days prior he ran the stop arm of another bus, and almost hit a kid, and two weeks prior to that did almost the same thing yet NO tickets.

Around here almost no one gets a ticket for running a school bus stop arm.

If they would have nailed that guy for the other violations, I believe he wouldn't have hit my bus. I still have anxiety because of that incident! I also still have pain I my left shoulder/neck from it.

I of course had to piss in a cup, they took blood, and all that. I didn't do my morning run the next day, but I did my afternoon run ( they Is processed the test, and I was found negative in a few hours). That afternoon I had a lady pulling out of her driveway almost hit me. I had a full bus of elementary kids and it made me so sick that I almost couldn't finish my route. I did, but it was very hard.

People just don't care, pay attention, and at least Around here, the police/courts don't do jackshit about it.

My friends neighbor was a Deputy Sheriff and told him if he ever wanted to write more tickets than he had in his book, just follow a school bus and he would fill up his citation book. Ever. Day. All. Day.

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School bus drivers:
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Glad everyone is/was OK. I have had so many close calls it's unbelievable!

Years ago I had just dropped off my last elementary student and was driving down a neighborhood road and a guy on one of the large " almost " motorcycle high power scooters came off the main road a block away, at 45+ MPH, never slowed down/hit the brakes and hit me just under the stop arm on my Tomas C2. He hit me so hard that it put a hole in the side of my bus!

It almost killed him. Broke both legs, an arm, fracture his skull, fracture vertebrae, bite his tongue off, ruptured his spleen, and liver. Dislocated his left eye. Broke several ribs.

He was in a pool of blood, not breathing. He lived. But they didn't sight him.

A few days prior he ran the stop arm of another bus, and almost hit a kid, and two weeks prior to that did almost the same thing yet NO tickets.

Around here almost no one gets a ticket for running a school bus stop arm.

If they would have nailed that guy for the other violations, I believe he wouldn't have hit my bus. I still have anxiety because of that incident! I also still have pain I my left shoulder/neck from it.

I of course had to piss in a cup, they took blood, and all that. I didn't do my morning run the next day, but I did my afternoon run ( they Is processed the test, and I was found negative in a few hours). That afternoon I had a lady pulling out of her driveway almost hit me. I had a full bus of elementary kids and it made me so sick that I almost couldn't finish my route. I did, but it was very hard.

People just don't care, pay attention, and at least Around here, the police/courts don't do jackshit about it.

My friends neighbor was a Deputy Sheriff and told him if he ever wanted to write more tickets than he had in his book, just follow a school bus and he would fill up his citation book. Ever. Day. All. Day.

ARman


Are you still driving bus? Accidents are never fun. I can see where that one would have been particularly bad.

But with all that said what makes it all good is when the students bring in picked flowers (ok dandelions, and other weeds with flowers) drawings they have made, and notes like this one from One of my first graders Madison:


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Are you still driving bus? Accidents are never fun. I can see where that one would have been particularly bad.

But with all that said what makes it all good is when the students bring in picked flowers (ok dandelions, and other weeds with flowers) drawings they have made, and notes like this one from One of my first graders Madison:


Yeah, I'm still driving. Going on 11 years now. 2 as a regular route driver, 8+ as an open route driver. Our district does it different, to be an open route driver you have to have at least 2 years experience and we get paid a premium on top of the regular pay.

I love the open route driver job, but it does suck in a couple of ways. 1) if I'm filling in for sick driver, I usually don't know the kids, and they try to take advantage that.
2) like now, I'm on a route until the end of school, I get to know the kids, but a lot of the time, just like this route the old driver let the kids get away with things, and now I have to fix the route ( because of stops he made up, stops that no one gets on/off, and bad addresses that he never fixed), and get the kids back in line so that the next regular driver doesn't have to deal with it.

Safe driving!


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and of course I had to piss is a bottle for the drug test
You do absolutely nothing wrong but YOU have to take a drug test. Roll Eyes I assume it's an insurance thing....
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The driver of the SUV was claiming heart pain
Sure. Right. In that case, it seems to me the driver of the SUV should lose his driver's license, at least until he has a note from his doctor that he's fit to drive again.

Any idea the age of that driver?


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