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NYT - The Constitution is Anti-Democratic and Outdated
August 09, 2018, 06:46 PM
pulicordsNYT - The Constitution is Anti-Democratic and Outdated
Change the Constitution? Like maybe do something about that inconvenient First Amendment/Freedom of the Press thing where a Mexican National billionaire like say Carlos Slim can foist propaganda on us after buying a newspaper like say the New York Times and directing it to sell us some BS that ends up lining his pockets at the expense of American citizens? Yea, right. Let's do something about that.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...dUSKBN0KN2M820150114
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August 09, 2018, 07:40 PM
David Wquote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
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Donald Trump is in the White House, despite winning almost three million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton.
Gee, I'm sorry your hag lost, but that is the entire point of the United States constitutional structure; prevent a few population centers from dominating the rest of the citizenry.
Bingo, that was my exact thought when I read the first sentence and stopped right there. What do they think the constitution was written for? Moron.
David W.
Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud. -Sophocles August 09, 2018, 10:18 PM
Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
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Originally posted by Palm:
"outdated relic"
Good Lord, what a joke.
Yeah, only Jallen and Jhe888 are worthy of such a title.
Serious about crackers. August 09, 2018, 10:22 PM
12131FUCK.YOU.COMMIES.
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August 09, 2018, 10:52 PM
bobtheelfBreaking news: Communists want an easier road to seizing power.
August 09, 2018, 10:59 PM
RHINOWSOThe NY Times can go eat a bag of dicks.
Commies, one and all.
August 09, 2018, 11:26 PM
corsairquote:
Originally posted by David W:
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Originally posted by Sig2340:
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Donald Trump is in the White House, despite winning almost three million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton.
Gee, I'm sorry your hag lost, but that is the entire point of the United States constitutional structure; prevent a few population centers from dominating the rest of the citizenry.
Bingo, that was my exact thought when I read the first sentence and stopped right there. What do they think the constitution was written for? Moron.
I see that complaint come up often with the lefties, it's a sad commentary that HS Civics was not taken seriously nor, understood.
August 10, 2018, 01:07 AM
CPD SIGquote:
Originally posted by tigereye313:
Ignorance. Let them live in Venezuela for a month to see the end result of what they propose.
Besides, the doctrine of pure democracy predates The Constitution.
A month? how about FOR GOOD!
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August 10, 2018, 07:02 AM
PASigThese people have always hated the Constitutuon as it gets in their way too much.
Recall Obama talking about what he could accomplish had it not been for that pesky document?
They’ve always been this way, they are just getting bolder about telling us what they really think.
August 10, 2018, 08:01 AM
tigereye313quote:
Originally posted by CPD SIG:
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Originally posted by tigereye313:
Ignorance. Let them live in Venezuela for a month to see the end result of what they propose.
Besides, the doctrine of pure democracy predates The Constitution.
A month? how about FOR GOOD!
Probably a moot point as they wouldn't likely survive the experience.
August 10, 2018, 08:10 AM
erj_pilotThese idiots just can't get past that "living breathing document" notion, can they? I think my cats are smarter than these morons...
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 August 10, 2018, 08:20 AM
RipleyTrump has brought to the surface the ugly reality of who the left here have been for generations.
Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. August 10, 2018, 08:32 AM
Sig2340quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
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Originally posted by Palm:
"outdated relic"
Good Lord, what a joke.
Yeah, only Jallen and Jhe888 are worthy of such a title.
I'm not so sure. They don't reach relic status until they've been buried in the desert sand for 3,254 years, and even then, they aren't outdated, their newly discovered relics.
Nice is overrated
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Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
August 10, 2018, 08:47 AM
chellim1quote:
Think the Constitution Will Save Us? Think Again.
The subversion of democracy was the explicit intent of the framers.
Ugh! It's a feature... not a bug!
What you call "subversion of democracy" ... well PHPaul already said it:
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Originally posted by PHPaul:
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the subversion of democracy was the explicit intent of the Constitution’s framers.
If you substitute "prevention" for "subversion"...that's exactly right.
The United States is not, never has been, and hopefully never will be a "democracy" you ignorant twatwaffle.
Pure Democracy was recognized as dangerous and short lived because it offers no protection to private property.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor August 10, 2018, 09:02 AM
Jim ShugartA democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth. - George Bernard Shaw
August 10, 2018, 09:27 AM
RHINOWSOAnd now we have more evidence of the need for the 2A.
August 10, 2018, 09:36 AM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
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Originally posted by Palm:
"outdated relic"
Good Lord, what a joke.
Yeah, only Jallen and Jhe888 are worthy of such a title.
I don't mind being a relic, but outdated?
And yes the Constitution is undemocratic in some ways. The Senate is not proportional. Requiring super majorities to amend it is not democratic. Putting some decisions (to limit speech, for example) beyond the power of government is also undemocratic.
They, quite wisely I think, decided that some things should not be subject to the whim or will of a mere 50.01% of the vote.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. August 10, 2018, 09:38 AM
Mars_AttacksSo, in other words, the constitution is unconstitutional?
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