Ok so Maverick is a Navy Captain

In two scenes he’s wearing a USAF flight suit with Colonel insignia

Odd? Or am I imagining things.

Navy Captain is an Air Force Colonel. So, Birds.

(and a Navy Lieutenant is an Air Force Captain. So, Railroad Tracks)

And Navy Plane Captains don't fly planes, they fix them. Air Force (crew) Chiefs Fix 'em, and Navy Chiefs tell Plane Captains to fix 'em.

In the Navy you don't poop on the poop deck.

It can be complicated in the military.

LOL

Considering that Tom Cruise was 59-60 years old in 2022 - far too old to be flying fighters off a carrier, let alone a hypersonic aircraft, in real life - I wouldn't get too wrapped up in details.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pm...censeMilitary/TopGun
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pm...hp/Creator/TomCruise

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Originally posted by egregore:
I wouldn't get too wrapped up in details.

Heck, the movie begins with him hitting the atmosphere at mach 10, and all it did was muss up his hair. It disintegrated the plane, but he was ok.

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Originally posted by Biker_dude:
Heck, the movie begins with him hitting the atmosphere at mach 10, and all it did was muss up his hair. It disintegrated the plane, but he was ok.

There was a theory that he was not okay. Everything we saw from that point on was him dreaming it while in a coma state.

I like the coma dream theory. You don’t eject at mach 10 and survive. Even with a capsule (such as used on the supersonic B-58 and XB-70 bombers which completely enclosed the pilot), there is no surviving that. SO, the theory goes that he died when the aircraft broke up, and EVERYTHING that followed is his brain cells playing out a literal dream scenario in the last miliseconds of his life.

It is all too convenient:

One last great mission, that ONLY he can pull off.

He reconciles with Goose’s son.

He hooks up with ex girlfriend and can now have a family (which he never had).

He saves the day, again, reliving his glory day from 1986.

He even has an impossible final dogfight in an F-14, ending his career in such a way as to become a literal legend.



The first movie was BS, too. At the final act, the Enterprise cannot launch any more fighters because “both our catapults are broken.” Yeah, Enterprise had FOUR cats, and the odds of even two breaking all at once without combat damage are ridiculous. . .

But, hey, I really love both movies. A good story can compel me to overlook such plot flaws.

The biggest takeaway from he movie was how good Jennifer Connely looked.

Sometimes ya just gotta let a movie be a movie. Are you not entertained??

Staying with Tom Cruise, the suspension of reality in Top Gun is but a fraction of that in Mission Impossible, especially The Final Reckoning. I have a category for all these movies: Big, Stupid, Fun movies. I expect a minimal relationship to reality and enjoy the movie.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Sometimes ya just gotta let a movie be a movie. Are you not entertained??

Yes it is just a movie, I liked it and why wasn't this thread in the Lair?

Acceptable breaks from reality

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A Willing Suspension of Disbelief is a must for every work of fiction. There are certain elements of story or gameplay where realism would simply make a work tedious, difficult, or confusing for the audience. Thus there are ways in which works will be blatantly, unabashedly unrealistic, and nobody really minds.

I think both Top Gun movies fit this. The first, BTW, is in the National Film Registry.

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I think both Top Gun movies fit this. The first, BTW, is in the National Film Registry.

My wife and I recently binge watched both Top Gun movies, back to back one night.

The first was definitely a better film than the second. Like most sequels, Top Gun Maverick just felt like a way to capitalize off of the prior success.

It did need some closure though. Whatever happened to…

I think it’s called ‘artistic license’, making it more of a story or enjoyable to watch. Kinda like the movie’Lone survivor’, much different than real events.

Then again, Top Gun is totally fictional, so just check out & enjoy.

I watched it at a theater when it first came out.
When Mav gets the call to go in the beginning of the movie he gets his flight jacket out of the closet..
On the front left breast area of the coat is my ships patch that I was on 1973-1975 USS William H Standley DLG-32
I thought that was pretty cool!

The "Colonel" insignia is what the Navy calls Captain.

He's a USN Captain wearing a USN Aviator flight suit.

It's all a dream anyway as he died during the flight of the experimental aircraft and this is all a death dream from that point forward. That was proposed after the movie came out and that's what I think is going on.

When this movie came out, my son was 3. He is all in on airplanes. I think I have watched this movie double digit times since it came out. You have to watch it like a 3 year old watches it. When he was 6, he wanted to fly the felon when he grows up. I had to explain to him that wasn't a possibility. Now he wants to fly the Lightning or the Warthog.

Anyway, with movies like this, just sit back and let it be badass.

If he would have died @Mach 10.1 it would have been a short movie...

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Originally posted by hberttmank:
Yes it is just a movie, I liked it and why wasn't this thread in the Lair?

This^^^