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Originally posted by egregore:
I wonder if there will be Bernie Bro equivalents of Mao's Red Guards, recruited from Antifa ranks, to make sure we "deplorables" stay in line. At least one has used violence, i.e., the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise. To my knowledge he - or any of the Dem candidates for that matter - has never disavowed it. A remote possibility, bordering on tin foil hat territory, but it can't hurt to be prepared.

Shooter James Hodgkinson from just up the road here. Sanders did condemn the shooting without acknowledging the mindset. FWIW James O'Keefe recently exposed mid-level Sanders organizers/operatives for that same mindset, violence in dealing with political opposition. Sanders was conspicuously silent about those revelations. It's important to note I said mid-level people, not generic brown shirt street thug dupes.

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Originally posted by DaBigBR:
Nominate him, Democrats. I dare you.

I am not that confident.

Remember the cockiness in 2016.
The Trump derangement syndrome is embedded deep with many voters.

As CQB60 stated; “ Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups...”



It is not just about President Trump.
Conservatives need to overwhelmingly win all races in November, to squash this rise of Socialism.

Yup, complacency, confidence, and cockiness will lead to defeat. Too many such examples. Do our job, encourage our side to go vote.

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Originally posted by dave7378:
I hear you Pre. I too grew up poor and paid my own way thru school. Luckily SUNY was only about 7k per year so I wasn't crushed with debt when I graduated. I do feel bad for some students today who I feel get swindled into taking these loans. Please don't read this as being in favor of forgiving these loans. I am not. I am however sickened by the state of the current education system, specifically colleges constantly raising tuition prices because the gov't guarantees the loans. Students graduating with 200K+ in loans have little hope in repaying them. I have been fortunate enough to have started a fairly successful business and been able to start saving early for my kids education. My kids hopefully won't have the stress of a huge debt hanging over their head upon graduation. But to your point, no on debt forgiveness. Perhaps yes to education loan reform or to better educating the repercussions of taking out these, IMO, borderline criminal loans. Reminds me of poaching.

Grad school (MBA in Finance) from start to finish, is 24k. Local/state school that is well respected. I don’t get the 200k in debt thing unless you went to an expensive school, probably out of state, and charged (loans,plastic) your way 100% through it. I’m in a prep course for the GMAT right now. Most of them that I looked at were $1k-2k. I found one at the local community college for $150. I was in the same situation graduating high school. Had academic scholarships when I graduated college (A’s all the way through public school with little effort, and many of those AP courses). But those scholarships covered tuition/books, and not the dorm, which was $$$$ so I elected to do it on my own. I’ve checked our state schools here, reputable, and a bachelors doesn’t add up to 200k, or even 100k.

Bernie calls himself a Democrat Socialist, that’s what the Commies in the 40’s and 50’s called their system, the Democratic Socialist Republic.

The limousine liberals who were morally outraged and swore they’d leave the country if Bush was elected and said it again about Trump didn’t go anywhere either time, but I guarantee they’ll be bailing like rats from a sinking ship if Sanders wins because to them money doesn’t just come before morality in the dictionary.

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Originally posted by satch:
Bernie calls himself a Democrat Socialist, that’s what the Commies in the 40’s and 50’s called their system, the Democratic Socialist Republic.

The only reason I’m in this country is because my father fled communism to come to this country. It’s Terrifying to see how people forget.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020...hild-care-preschool/

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) released his plan to give free, full-day child care for every child beginning at infancy and free preschool education to all children starting at age three at a cost of $1.5 trillion over the next ten years.

The federally funded programs would be administered by states and tribes in partnership with local public school systems, and the money would also theoretically pay for workers who run the programs and infrastructure costs.

“Childcare must be guaranteed for every child regardless of their parents’ income, just like K-12 education,” Sanders said in a statement. “We know that the first four years of a child’s life are the most important years of human development, so it is unconscionable that in the wealthiest country in the world, we do not properly invest in early childhood education.”

“As president, we will guarantee free, universal childcare and pre-kindergarten to every child in America to help level the playing field, create new and good jobs, and enable parents [to] more easily balance the demands of work and home,” Sanders said.

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They must be running out of ideas for more free stuff

^^^ The earlier they can indoctrinate, the better!

what's another trillion or so to crazy bernie.

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Originally posted by P210:
The limousine liberals who were morally outraged and swore they’d leave the country if Bush was elected and said it again about Trump didn’t go anywhere either time, but I guarantee they’ll be bailing like rats from a sinking ship if Sanders wins because to them money doesn’t just come before morality in the dictionary.

I doubt Bernie would be able to accomplish much as President as I have trouble believing he’d have a communist house and senate. However, if the communists ever did take over, a thinking moral person would have only two choices: revolution or take themselves and their family to safety, doing everything they can to starve the beast.

I read somewhere a post how to recognize a Socialist/ Communist Utopia in how bad/screwed up it can be.


Peoples Republic: Used to Be part of the good old USSR, Bad guys still around but not necessarily in power.. Little Paint, New Flag and voila We are the Peoples republic.

Democratic Peoples Republic: Again a chip of the old Soviet Block. Bad Guys are in government, possible in the Majority. Just not doing the Khmer Rouge thing....yet.

Peoples Socialist Republic: See Above. Bad guys are in charge (see Cuba) They still beat the drum for the Socialist Agenda but are one step away from Famine and Social Collapse But somehow (Venezuela) They keep pluggin along.

Democratic People's Republic: Think North Korea. It is a Ball of Fire going down. How it keeps stumblin along makes no sense. When folks are crossing the border into The Peoples Republic of China for a better life. You know it's Bad.

Feel free to add you own. Romania and Albania should be mentioned as special cases just cause. They seem to be getting better but time will tell. Their means of throwing off the Yoke of Communism involved putting their former Heads of State Up against the wall.

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:

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Originally posted by satch:
Bernie calls himself a Democrat Socialist, that’s what the Commies in the 40’s and 50’s called their system, the Democratic Socialist Republic.

The only reason I’m in this country is because my father fled communism to come to this country. It’s Terrifying to see how people forget.

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Originally posted by Citadel:
They seem to be getting better but time will tell. Their means of throwing off the Yoke of Communism involved putting their former Heads of State Up against the wall.

That sounds like a good solution, but I don’t believe we need to go that far. Good long prison sentences for OBlunder and co-conspirators would be an acceptable solution.

Just wait till he gives the nod to the Ass Of Congress as his VP running mate...

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Originally posted by CQB60:
Just wait till he gives the nod to the Ass Of Congress as his VP running mate...

She’s not eligible—not 35 YOA (Article 2, Section 1, paragraph 4).

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I wonder if he rooted for the Soviet hockey team in 1980? Did he root for Ivan Drago while watching Rocky IV?

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Did he root for Ivan Drago while watching Rocky IV?

What a monster.

I want to know who he rooted for while watching "Red Dawn".

List: Democrats saying what a terrible nominee Bernie Sanders would be

https://www.washingtonexaminer...020-democratic-field

Bernie Sanders is causing the Democratic establishment acute heartburn, with many party regulars worried the socialist Vermont senator is throwing away a golden opportunity to defeat President Trump.

As Sanders, 78, has cemented front-runner status in the Democratic primary, veteran party operatives, prominent liberal figures and elected officials are sounding the alarm. It’s not unlike Republican establishment freak-out as Trump barreled toward the GOP nomination four years ago. Top Democrats warn that Sanders would lose to the president and be a disaster for the party down-ticket. Here is a sampling:

Mark Mellman, veteran Democratic pollster based in Washington
“Democrats say defeating Trump is what’s most important to them … We think Sanders is very poorly positioned to do that.” The Guardian, January 31, 2020

Rep. Henry Cuellar of Texas
“I'm a Democrat … I think it would be difficult to have a socialist at the top of the ticket. I think he clarifies it and says 'a democratic socialist,' but a socialist is a socialist, whether it's Republican socialist or democratic socialist, if there is such a thing." The Hill, February 11, 2020

Rahm Emanuel, former Chicago mayor and Barack Obama’s first White House chief of staff.
“In the last hundred years, three Democrats have won reelection for president: Franklin Roosevelt, President Clinton, Barack Obama,” Emanuel said. Their strategies were based on assembling "an urban, suburban, metropolitan coalition,” he continued. “Bernie is saying ‘Forget that. Screw it … Basically, there are about 70 million socialists ready to be awoken to their inner socialist. And I would just say to you if our No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 goal is to get rid of Donald Trump, it is a really big risk to go on a political strategy that has never been tried before.” The Hill, February 25, 2020

Hillary Clinton, Democratic nominee for president in 2016
"He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It's all just baloney, and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it."
The Hollywood Reporter, January 21, 2020

Joe Lieberman, Democratic nominee for vice president in 2000 and former Connecticut senator
“When you look at [Sanders’s] programs, it would change America. The government would take over most of the economy, and if his programs, as he’s advocated, were ever adopted, America would be bankrupt. Fox Business, February 12, 2020

Sen. Jon Tester of Montana
"I come from a state that's pretty damn red. There is no doubt that having 'socialist' ahead of 'Democrat' is not a positive thing in the state of Montana … He can overcome that, but I think it's something he's going to have to do." Associated Press, January 8, 2020

Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia
“Absolutely not,” Manchin said, when asked if he would support Sanders’s agenda. Asked what Manchin would do if the choice before him in November is Sanders or Trump, he replied, “It wouldn’t be Bernie.” Fox News, October 30, 2019

James Carville, Democratic strategist, former adviser to President Bill Clinton.
"Last night on CNN, Bernie Sanders called me a political hack … That’s exactly who the f--- I am! I am a political hack! I am not an ideologue. I am not a purist. He thinks it’s a pejorative. I kind of like it! At least I’m not a communist.” The Hill, February 13, 2020

Chris Matthews, host of MSNBC’s “Hardball”
"I was reading last night about the fall of France in the summer of 1940 … And the general, Reynaud, calls up Churchill and says, 'It's over.' And Churchill says: 'How can that be? You've got the greatest army in Europe. How can it be over?' He said, 'It's over.' So I had that suppressed feeling." Matthews later apologized for these remarks. February 22, 2020

Rep. Cedric Richmond of Louisiana, who has endorsed Joe Biden.
“If Bernie Sanders was at the top of the ticket, we would be in jeopardy of losing the House … We would not get the Senate back.” The New York Times, February 12, 2020

Jeff Hewitt, veteran Texas Democratic consultant
“Sanders is a complete disaster … At the end of the day, most of us want to win.” Politico, February 15, 2020

Matt Bennett, the executive vice-president for public affairs at Third Way, a center-left thinktank.
“There is a deep treasure trove of stuff from Bernie’s background – all of the radical things he’s said and done over the years – that the Trump campaign could circulate … He is without question the candidate Trump hopes to have as an opponent in November.” The Guardian, January 31, 2020

Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey
“I always find it interesting that he gives a passing glance to the question of authoritarianism, but then dwells on all the alleged good things … So it's just not what I would want to see in the person who would be the leader of the free world.” CNN’s Manu Raju, February 25, 2020

Rep. Joe Cunningham of South Carolina
“South Carolinians don’t want socialism … We want to know how you are going to get things done and how you are going to pay for them. Bernie’s proposals to raise taxes on almost everyone is not something the low country wants and not something I’d ever support.” The Post and Courier, February 12, 2020

Steve Israel of New York, former chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
“Donald Trump will paint every Democrat — whether they’re running for U.S. Senate or county sheriff — as a socialist, as a ‘Bernie Sanders socialist’ … And that’s a tough deal in a lot of these [House] districts.” The New York Times, February 12, 2020

Rep. Dean Phillips of Minnesota, who has endorsed Sen. Amy Klobuchar
“I’m the first Democrat to win in my district since 1958 … I attracted a lot of independent and moderate Republican support, many of whom probably voted for a Democrat for the first time in a long time. And while I respect Bernie Sanders as a senator, as a candidate, his candidacy is very challenging for people who come from districts like mine.” The New York Times, February 12, 2020

Joe Lockhart, White House press secretary under President Bill Clinton, in
“The Democratic establishment gave us civil rights, voting rights, the assault weapons ban, social security and Medicare. What have you done Senator?” Tweet, February 21, 2020

Rep. Scott Peters of California, who is backing Mike Bloomberg.
“Sanders is about the worst candidate we can put up. He not only won’t likely win the presidency; he puts the House majority at risk.” The Hill, February 11, 2020

Rep. Max Rose of New York, another Bloomberg backer.
“I’m not a socialist. I’m thinking about printing T-shirts saying as much. I think socialist economic policies fail, inevitably.” The Hill, February 11, 2020

Rep. Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania
“In the most important election of our lives, Sen. @BernieSanders & Rep. @AOC are celebrating a bill that would eliminate thousands of good union jobs in #PA17 & across PA — a state we need to win … What are we doing? We are Democrats. Jobs come first.” Tweet, February 14, 2020

Val Arkoosh, county commissioner in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania
“Montgomery County is home to many moderate Republicans, and I hear from them with some regularity that they are interested in having a different president … But they do have concerns over some of the more deeply progressive policies that are being espoused by Senator Sanders, so I think it could affect turnout from people who wouldn’t necessarily always vote Democratic.” The Philadelphia Inquirer, February 22, 2020

Kathy Harrington, first vice chair of the Lehigh County Democratic Party
“I’m in the car with someone right now who said she wouldn’t vote for Bernie Sanders even though she’s a Democrat. She’s making a gag noise right now.” The Philadelphia Inquirer, February 22, 2020

Ben LaBolt, former adviser to President Barack Obama
"He's more concerned about shouting in the wilderness to make an ideological point than getting things done." Associated Press, January 8, 2020

Marshall Matz, policy adviser to George McGovern, Democratic nominee for president in 1972
"I think he would not just lose but would lose badly — and I don't think the country can afford that." Associated Press, January 8, 2020