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Give Ludovico Enaudi a shot. He’s formally trained but has headed to more easy listening and popular stuff.

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I think some can cross over. In the first clip, Yuja Wang has a little fun with Moazrt’s Variations on the Turkish March. In the second clip, earlier in her career, she plays it with a traditional interpretation.

https://youtu.be/RGAPTRrAilY?si=kHKwWSXP7Qq1vq2M

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15NGMyjHbv/

Classical music generally requires a fairly strict interpretation based upon the composer, style, era, etc. While jazz has rules, it is less structured for day to day playing.

That being said, I just don’t think some classically trained musicians can “feel” jazz and thus are not good at it. They hit the notes but it is missing something as they are too rigid in their thought process. On the other hand, a jazz player may not be disciplined enough to make the critics happy for a classical piece.

With all this in mind, in general, I think a good jazz player has an easier time playing classical music - at least in my experience. Yuja Wang being an exception but then she is exceptional in her playing ability IMO.

One of my favorite rag/jazz pianists is Ethan Ulsan. He is both classical and jazz trained. The first clip is his ragtime version of The Blue Danube. The second clip is his ragtime arrangement to Fur Elise. Both are exceptional as well.

https://youtu.be/SdYxpWIXYCc?si=CS3ISVrZNvuvdDqW


https://youtu.be/FnhBDXmf-OM?si=CHUv_lGbGJijMXxf


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I don't know much about the subject, my wife's Uncle is Bill Dobbins. We flew up north a few times to watch him play solo

He's been a professor since 73 at Eastman School of Music





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Nice. Thanks guys.

Great to have talent. I hope to play something on piano and violin after I retire.




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Winton Marsalis had a jazz group of classical musicians. I went to a concert of theirs.

It was worth listening to. Very unique.

Soviet attempts at jazz are unnerving. It’s so repressed and controlled, but I think if you could find them playing privately, in a place they felt safe, they would be quite good.
 
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I know a classically trained violinist well. He tried to play in bands that are entertaining at bars and private parties...songs like Blackwater, Dust In The Wind, ... , Wagon Wheel, various bluegrass tunes, and even Celtic music. Each time he found that the classical training and muscle memories interfered with the free expression, typical rhythms, and voicing that the modern music requires. He was unable to cross-over in spite of his best efforts.

So, to be successful at both jazz and classical, I think would take a special awareness of both genres and a willingness to practice with purpose -- not to play the music, but to perform the music.

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Thanks. Poking around the suggestions above.

Was anticipating the reality as articulated by 4mul8r with some exceptions.




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