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What happens to portable electric generators when they get taxed?
June 05, 2023, 03:22 PM
bendableWhat happens to portable electric generators when they get taxed?
Glen purchased. 4000 watt gen from a guy.
It's nine years old only 30;hours on it.
My question is,
If you ask it to do more than it was designed to do,
Does it
A. Just shut down
B. Burn up and die.
C. Ruin the tools that are plugged in
D.all of the above
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June 05, 2023, 03:31 PM
kkinaWouldn't the circuit breaker simply trip in an overload situation?
June 05, 2023, 03:34 PM
MuddflapThe generators I’ve messed with had circuit breakers.
Try to pull 30 amps through a 20 amp breaker, and it will trip.
June 05, 2023, 04:31 PM
MoosehornManThere is "running watts" and "surge watt" ratings,
so if you go over the running watts (maybe 3250 on a 4000 watt gen?) for a motor start surge the ones I have will temporarily over rev to the surge watt rating, if you run it at surge watts constant it will shorten life of generator.
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June 05, 2023, 04:34 PM
trapper189They throw themselves into the harbor.
June 05, 2023, 04:35 PM
bendableI did not know they had circut breakers.
Well that's a comfort
Thanks
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June 05, 2023, 04:43 PM
kkinaOlder ones may not. Maybe check if yours does.
June 05, 2023, 05:54 PM
MikeinNCMy dual fuel genset has a breaker built in.
It won’t draw more than it’s supposed to, the breaker trips and you can tell by the engine speed that something is wrong-plus the stuff you’re running dies.
Absolutely cannot run a miter saw on it. When I got it I hooked up all the things in the garage to see what would kill it. Skill saw runs slow.
But I got it for the reefer and freezer and wi-fi and a few lights. It does all that
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ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
They throw themselves into the harbor.
bendable, doing so repeatedly will likely shorten the life of the generator and the voltage sags during the taxation may damage connected devices. Appliances with compressors may be particularly vulnerable.
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selogicIt's not just voltage sags that you need to worry about . Motors do not like low frequency .
June 05, 2023, 08:34 PM
41I have a year 2000 generator that was never used or needed by my father. Think it is still good??
41
June 05, 2023, 09:00 PM
ArtieSThey have circuit breakers that trip.
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June 05, 2023, 09:01 PM
ArtieSquote:
Originally posted by 41:
I have a year 2000 generator that was never used or needed by my father. Think it is still good??
Yes. I have a low hours 1986 Yahmaha that the local dealer offered me $1k for. Old ones are build to last.
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June 05, 2023, 09:11 PM
hrcjonOK here goes. It depends on the nature of the overload and the design of the generator. But mostly what they do is try to cope with the load. And that drives RPM lower and with it voltage. So anything seriously voltage sensitive is at risk. Once the voltage or RPM drops enough you can have a breaker cut out, the engine stall, or some component fail. Your best guess.
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June 06, 2023, 12:52 AM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
They throw themselves into the harbor.
Here in Florida it's 6% for the state and a possible discretionary add-on for the county.
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TBHWe had a gen fail which we purchased from Costco. I think we all know they have a great return policy. So before I returned it, I called and talked to a manager to make sure they would take it back.
When I returned it, the gent looked my account up and said “ this is 12 years old! At what point do think we are no longer responsible?”
My response was, it didn’t just stop working. It stopped regulating voltage. As I recall, 170ish? It fried the electronics in two ceiling fans, our new Bosch range, two surge protectors and our computer.
I definitely understood his attitude, and after explaining what happened, he was more than helpful.
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June 07, 2023, 09:25 AM
jimmy123xThe circuit breaker trips and you have to reset it.
June 07, 2023, 09:27 AM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by TBH:
We had a gen fail which we purchased from Costco. I think we all know they have a great return policy. So before I returned it, I called and talked to a manager to make sure they would take it back.
When I returned it, the gent looked my account up and said “ this is 12 years old! At what point do think we are no longer responsible?”
My response was, it didn’t just stop working. It stopped regulating voltage. As I recall, 170ish? It fried the electronics in two ceiling fans, our new Bosch range, two surge protectors and our computer.
I definitely understood his attitude, and after explaining what happened, he was more than helpful.
I think it's ridiculous to get Costco to warrant out a 12 year old generator. That's way past a reasonable amount of time (by about a decade) to expect a company to warranty a portable generator.