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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Was having some neighbors over tonight for dinner and wanted to grill some steaks so I headed to a local butcher that has a good variety of meats. The beef is so FREAKING EXPENSIVE right now and they had pork steaks that caught my eye and were a good price for 2022 as far as meats go so I decided to try them. They appear to be slices of bone-in pork butt, I made a paste rub and let that sit on them for about 5 hours then grilled them on my gas Weber Q320 hot and fast. They were really good! Much better flavor than pork loin chops and not tough like I was fearing they’d be knowing that butt usually likes a long slow cooking process. I’m not sure I’ll ever be going back to regular pork loin chops anytime soon to be honest, I’d rather eat these. Raw, you can see the blade bone: With the paste rub: On the Q: | ||
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They're so much better because there's so much more of the good white stuff in them. | |||
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If I'm not mistaken they're marketed as bone-in pork shoulder steaks. Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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A staple of the Midwest that surprisingly (to us midwesterners) are not available everywhere. They are sliced pork butt. You can get away with a fast cook sometimes but if you want a really exceptional pork steak that is incredibly tender slow is the way to go. I’m not a fan of the crock pot method myself but many will grill them then grow in the crock pot for a couple hours with barbecue sauce and they will literally fall of the bone. ----------------------------------- | |||
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That's been a St.Louis tradition for a long time. I have had them for so long that I have gone to the pork tenderloin if I'm eating pork. I'm kinda surprised they aren't more popular around the country. | |||
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The wife and I eat those bone-in pork steaks all the time. Probably our favorite meat now. And yes, slow cooking is the way to go. I use my cast iron frying pan on med low heat with butter and a good vegetable oil. Your rub looks good. .....never marry a woman who is mean to your waitress. | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
Grill marks! I can almost taste the charred smokey parts. That looks delicious. I find that pork does have more taste than beef. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Dances With Tornados |
My neighbor is from St Louis (and still goes back there every couple of months). He grills amazing Pork Steaks. They're amazingly good. When he goes to St Louis, he brings back a cooler full of them and in the freezer they go. I pointed out to him that our local grocer (has a fresh meat case, you point to what you want, and they wrap them up for you) has the exact same looking pork steaks, he replies that they are cut differently in St Louis and are thus much better. I don't know, they look the same to me, but his sure do taste really good, better than the ones I've been buying at the local grocer for years. Thanks for the topic. . | |||
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Similar for me when looking for tri-tip when visiting family in other parts of the country. Certain regions have their particulars or, unique items, one big reason why I enjoy traveling, being able to eat those unique regional items. Midwest pork steaks, common' bring it! How would those pork steaks had fared if you had brined them before hand? Get'em in brine the night before, pull them out, apply rub, and give it another 5-hrs before putting them on grill. | |||
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Totally a St. Louis thing, and they are awesome. Want to try it the St. Louis way? This was how my grandpa taught me. Get your pork steaks (A sliced Boston Butt, also known as a pork butt or pork shoulder, which is technically actually the front shoulder of the pig, NOT the butt, which is a ham) sliced about 1/2" to 3/4" thick. Thaw them and pat them dry. Trim the large areas of fat on the outside but leave a little bit on, that's your flavor. Just trim the BIG chunks off and don't trim it all the way down. Sprinkle the steaks on all sides with garlic powder, onion powder, salt, pepper and paprika. Here's the choice moment, depending on time and equipment. You can use the grill/smoker, or cheat with an oven (oven is great in cooler weather and I cheat like this in the early spring and fall) For the grill/smoker: Set it up with indirect heat. around 250/275 degrees or so. (I usually do it be feel on my grill, so hard to tell exact temp) Cook them so the fat starts to render, about an hour to 1.5 hours. Basically til the steaks start to firm up a bit and you can pick them up with tongs and they don't flop over, but are a little more rigid. Oven: I do about 1.5 hours at 250 degrees depending on thickness. If doing just a couple I put them in a glass baking dish, single layer. If doing more, use mulitple baking dishes or larger. You could probably use a deep sided cooking sheet, but be aware that a lot of fat will render leaving liquid. Make sure it is contained so as not to start a fire in the oven. While they are indirect cooking or baking... Get your BBQ sauce ready. I start with a base of Sweet Baby Ray's original sauce. You can't use too much. Put a bunch of the Sweet Baby Ray's in a small pot. (this is the fun part). Open a beer. I prefer an American Lager type beer, like Budweiser, but you can use any regular beer (I wouldn't use anything too fruity or IPA stuff, just normal beer). To the sauce, add in some beer. (about a 3:1 ratio, sauce to beer). Then add in a pinch of red pepper flakes, some garlic powder (maybe a tsp or two to taste), some onion powder (about the same amount), and a few TBSP of brown sugar. Cook the sauce over med heat to thicken it, tasting as you go. You can add more ingredients as you taste it to your personal preference. If you make it too strong, add more sauce, more beer (in the above ratio) and weaken it to the desired flavor. (obviously, you drink the rest of the beer, and additional beers as you do this) Hopefully, in the 1.5 hours (up to two hours if needed) you have been indirect cooking the steaks, you have gotten the sauce where you want it. It should taste good, and be nice and thick. Take the pot, and a basting brush out to the grill, which should be made to have a cooking area large enough for all the steaks in a single layer over medium heat. Put the steaks on the grill over the heat. Baste with sauce. (On my gas grill, I combine techniques setting the direct area for med/low heat and the indirect area for high heat). Baste the steaks with the sauce by brushing it on. Flip the steaks and baste the other side. Cook for 3 to 10 minutes depending on your grill and heat level. You want the sauce to thicken and LIGHTLY caramelize, NOT BURN. You will flip the steaks and baste them multiple times. You need to make sure it doesn't burn on. I probably apply 10 to 15 layers of sauce, flipping each time. Once you have a nice sticky BBQ sauce on the steaks, and the steaks are firm (you can pick up one end with tongs and the steak barely bends) pull them off and serve them hot. Goes great with scalloped potatoes, corn on the cob, coleslaw, potato salad, or other type BBQ sides. Enjoy. Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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Side note, what do they charge for them in PA? Here if you watch the ads in the local grocery, you can get them for about 1.49/lb Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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Slight thread drift but I just paid $5.49 a pound for some in Fairbanks AK! ----------------------------------- | |||
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HOLY CRAP! Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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Looks really good PA. I do these once in a while on the Weber kettle and smoke them with Hickory. 145° is good for most pork but these have to get to that magic temperature where they almost fall apart. Closer to 200°. This cut is available about everywhere here in N.E. Ohio. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not. | |||
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Damn Kev that sounds flipping awesome. Thanks for sharing!! Saved to the recipes memory bank!
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PA, they look fantastic! I agree, pork steaks are delicious! Kevin, thanks for sharing the family recipe - I'll be trying them that way soon!! | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
These were $4.49/lb but it’s a local independent butcher with high quality meats so it’s more than typical supermarket stuff. The supermarkets around here have never sold pork steaks though. | |||
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Kevin, wow, we may have the same grandpa. Almost identical to what I learned 50 years ago. We always grilled with charcoal and would add some small hickory sticks for flavor. I used to add beer With Maull’s bbq sauce (another St Louis thing, but is not as good as it once was) but have transitioned to adding bourbon to the sauce. Jim Beam black and Knob creek are my favorites. | |||
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Has anyone tried reverse sear method yet? | |||
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