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Originally posted by chellim1:
Principal Removes Student With Sign Saying 'Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People'

On Wednesday, a student at a high school in Minnesota joined his classmates who were participating in the National School Walkout and was singled out and removed by his principal for holding a sign that said, "Guns Don’t Kill People, People Kill People."

The video was first posted to Facebook by Kenny MacDonald, a student at New Prague High School in New Prague, Minnesota. The short video does not show what took place before or after the principal singled-out the student. In the post, MacDonald provided the following account of what took place:

Kids at our school today walked out, in honor of the 17 students killed in Florida. Students held signs that said, “Arm our teachers” they had two signs. A student walked out without saying a word peacefully put up his sign which said “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” he was escorted off the property by our principal and threatened to be put into a police car. This violates the first amendment and makes me sick that they can do whatever they want. Please make this go viral

Within a few hours, the video had already been viewed nearly 300,000 times, shared over 17,000 times, and received thousands of comments from people who expressed anger and disgust over the suppression of free speech and political indoctrination at public schools.

WATCH here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news...saying-ryan-saavedra

They already believe that the Second Amendment protects the government's right to be armed, it only makes sense that they would think the First Amendment only protects the government's speech.

Maybe some good will come of this anti-gun craze. The wife is out of town, I have some free time, haven't been to the range for a while. I think will take a couple of trips out there in the next week.

I wish I could embed this video, but I haven't found a youtube copy of it yet.

While she didn't call out the media hypocrisy or the hoplophobia of it all, she did call her fellow students to the carpet for "just being out here to get out of class". She also used her energy to point them in a direction that they as students can have an immediate and real effect on.

Angelica Mansfield, I applaud you.


Facebook video:

https://www.facebook.com/ThatP...os/2457876171105150/

Article with some background:

http://www.krem.com/article/ne...-viral/293-528624714

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Because he refused to comply with school administrators orders to participate, he's been suspended for one day from school.

I do not understand. Are you people saying some schools REQUIRED students to walk out of class or off grounds as part of the curriculum? Or face punishment?

What sort of upside down world is that??!

Speaking with a couple friends in the Orlando area, bigdeal's friend may have mischaracterized the nature of the "event" that the kids were supposed to attend. Not sure of each school but apparently many were having a school organized "Memorial" rather than a student initiated walkout. Semantics, I know.

Regardless, if they don't have to stand up for the flag or do anything else the little precious doesn't want to, don't see how you can force them to attend a Memorial event that is outside the normal school routine.

Leaving school grounds on school time with faculty is a field trip.

Did the school send home permission slips to be signed by the parents?

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Originally posted by mbinky:
Leaving school grounds on school time with faculty is a field trip.

A lot of this BS was staying on school grounds. I'm not defending it in any way, but if they don't leave the property for a memorial, or a pep rally, no slips needed I suspect and you can use that messed up rationale to compel students to attend just like any other assembly.

Crazy.

At my brothers school they have a courtyard that is still “inside” the school that the kids went to. Only about 30 attended and they had to have written permission slips. Emails did not count.
Teachers were told to treat it like any other day. Some gave tests and did not allow the time to be made up.

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Because he refused to comply with school administrators orders to participate, he's been suspended for one day from school.

I do not understand. Are you people saying some schools REQUIRED students to walk out of class or off grounds as part of the curriculum? Or face punishment?

What sort of upside down world is that??!

Speaking with a couple friends in the Orlando area, bigdeal's friend may have mischaracterized the nature of the "event" that the kids were supposed to attend. Not sure of each school but apparently many were having a school organized "Memorial" rather than a student initiated walkout. Semantics, I know.

Regardless, if they don't have to stand up for the flag or do anything else the little precious doesn't want to, don't see how you can force them to attend a Memorial event that is outside the normal school routine.

This is second hand info, but from what I've been told, students were...

• Given a sheet the day before detailing that they should wear black clothing for the memorial/protest/whatever.
• Reminded no NRA or other 2A related apparel would be allowed.
• Told the school system had scheduled photographers at each school to take photos of the memorial/protest/whatever.

This whole thing was forced compliance in support of a liberal agenda. Nothing less, nothing more.

And my SIL, the NRA member who does not support any of this nonsense, was apparently told by her union rep that she 'had better' go ahead and participate in the 'event', as per her principal's direction.

The children are being used by liberals, and teachers like my SIL are being forced by liberals, to support their agenda. There is apparently no acceptable basis for non-participation. Again, all of this is utterly disgusting.

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Originally posted by F12517:
I took my high school age daughter for a civics lesson focusing on the 2nd amendment at the local gun range for the day.

Now that's my kind of progressive movement. Well done F12517

Pics of some of the signs spotted at those rallies prove that they were dem/communist marches. Reparations, La Raza, etc.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Because he refused to comply with school administrators orders to participate, he's been suspended for one day from school.

I do not understand. Are you people saying some schools REQUIRED students to walk out of class or off grounds as part of the curriculum? Or face punishment?

What sort of upside down world is that??!

Speaking with a couple friends in the Orlando area, bigdeal's friend may have mischaracterized the nature of the "event" that the kids were supposed to attend. Not sure of each school but apparently many were having a school organized "Memorial" rather than a student initiated walkout. Semantics, I know.

Regardless, if they don't have to stand up for the flag or do anything else the little precious doesn't want to, don't see how you can force them to attend a Memorial event that is outside the normal school routine.

This is second hand info, but from what I've been told, students were...

• Given a sheet the day before detailing that they should wear black clothing for the memorial/protest/whatever.
• Reminded no NRA or other 2A related apparel would be allowed.
• Told the school system had scheduled photographers at each school to take photos of the memorial/protest/whatever.

This whole thing was forced compliance in support of a liberal agenda. Nothing less, nothing more.

And my SIL, the NRA member who does not support any of this nonsense, was apparently told by her union rep that she 'had better' go ahead and participate in the 'event', as per her principal's direction.

The children are being used by liberals, and teachers like my SIL are being forced by liberals, to support their agenda. There is apparently no acceptable basis for non-participation. Again, all of this is utterly disgusting.

If I were them I would be talking to a lawyer. Students still have the right to free speech and free speech includes not speaking out against something you believe in. Schools cannot force kids to renounce God just like they can't force kids to pray. Staff is another issue as they are employees.

I personally would love to know what school district this is because I am looking to move to Florida in the next year and don't want to find myself in that district.

We were on vacation on the 14th and it's spring break on the 24th, so my kids won't be pawns in this crap.

Besides, they are 2A fans and love shooting.

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Originally posted by Pale Horse:
I personally would love to know what school district this is because I am looking to move to Florida in the next year and don't want to find myself in that district.

Orange County Public Schools (OCPS). I'm not going to share specific school info here because I did not discuss posting any of this on this forum with my friend. I do not know what if anything he's considering regarding his son's suspension, but he was still quite irritated about it when I last spoke with him.

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Originally posted by Leemur:
Pics of some of the signs spotted at those rallies prove that they were dem/communist marches. Reparations, La Raza, etc.

Oh yes, La Raza. They've been telling us they're going to "take back" Arizona and make it part of Mexico.

We tell them to let us know when they're ready to act.

I'm proud of my son for taking a stand by remaining in his seat IN CLASS. He said about 1/3 of his classmates that hour also remained in class, along with a substitute teacher. He said those remaining in class expressed similar conservative, pro 2nd Amendment views. He said other teachers and administrators described the protest as "non-political", but he said they handed out pre-typed letters to sign and mail to our congressman asking for more gun control.

My son knows the score. He refers to one of his classes as "AP Liberal Indoctrination". He also knows that evil exists in this world, and all the wishful thinking and hand holding isn't going to deter it, but guns in the hands of good men and women can and will deter it.

I have been quite happy to supplement his education with regular trips to the range.

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Originally posted by GWbiker:

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Originally posted by Leemur:
Pics of some of the signs spotted at those rallies prove that they were dem/communist marches. Reparations, La Raza, etc.

Oh yes, La Raza. They've been telling us they're going to "take back" Arizona and make it part of Mexico.

We tell them to let us know when they're ready to act.

Could we convince them to take California instead?

flashguy

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Originally posted by Leemur:
Pics of some of the signs spotted at those rallies prove that they were dem/communist marches. Reparations, La Raza, etc.

I have mentioned before, last year I taught my usual accounting class, the course before mine was some sort of liberal arts/multi-cultural stuff. The prof would often leave his material on the board, laying around the desk, etc. One day there was a large sign on the chalkboard "you owe more loyalty to LaRaza than to America".

(I wonder if MS-13 would be willing to give up their weapons?)

Has Mr. Lifson been reading Sigforum?

The downside of student protests against guns: moronic signs
By Thomas Lifson

The mainstream media and Democrat pols could barely contain their glee at student walkouts demanding gun control. They attach all kinds of virtue to innocents spouting the propaganda they feed them, and even coerce them into demonstrating for.

Only one small problem: they have, in the immortal words of Professor Kingsfield in The Paper Chase, skulls full of mush.

With a big hat tip to Stu Tarlowe, here some youngsters who have no clue of the depth of their ignorance, and the inadequacy of their educations to date.

Tiger Droppings featured this group of smiling imbeciles:



“They think there aren't any guns in the White House.”

Their magical thinking leads them to believe that gun free zones are safe zones, apparently.

On Facebook, David Baker spotted this gem, that reveals a poverty of knowledge:



For those unfamiliar with ancient history or the NRA, Baker explains:

In 480 BC, the Persian king Xerxes demanded that the Spartans give up their weapons. King Leonidas responded with the phrase ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ (molon labe) which meant "Come and take them." This led to the Battle of Thermopylae, in which a small group of Greek warriors held off a far superior group of Persians for three days.

Similarly, in 1831, the Mexican army gave a small piece of field artillery to settlers in Gonzales, Texas, to help them fend off Indian attacks. At the onset of the Texas Revolution, the Mexican army asked for the cannon back. In response, the settlers raised a homemade flag with an image of the weapon and the words "Come and Take It" emblazoned across it.

The twin phrases "ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ/molon labe" and "Come and Take It" have become synonymous with the promotion of the Second Amendment and other fundamental liberties. They are antithetical to the idea of unilateral disarmament.

Today, snowflakes across the country walked out of class to protest "gun violence" and demand new confiscatory gun laws. The poorly informed young woman in the photo was part of today's Tide Pod Walkout. Note the slogan (and date) on her shirt, and the protest sign in her hands.

Seriously--this is the most ironic photo I've seen in a long time.

Professor Kingsfield, these students need you.

https://www.americanthinker.co...s_moronic_signs.html

I never thought I'd see the day when we have people begging the government to take away rights from them that are written in our Constitution.