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Passively Constructed Negligent Discharge Story of the Day: FBI Agent Shoots Himself
August 29, 2022, 05:32 PM
RichardCPassively Constructed Negligent Discharge Story of the Day: FBI Agent Shoots Himself
https://www.thetruthaboutguns....courthouse/#commentsBy Dan Zimmerman -August 29, 2022
https://6abc.com/fbi-agent-sho...-discharge/12178034/'Ah yes. Another gun that somehow “went off.” As the local yokels who toil in Philly’s media milieu put it, FBI agent shot in leg when weapon accidentally discharges at Philadelphia courthouse. We’d title that story a little differently in the interest of accuracy. Something like, ‘FBI agent wounded after negligent discharge in Philly courthouse.’
Anyway, the feds’ finest continue to shower themselves in glory. As Philadelphia’s local ABC affiliate phrases it . . .
An FBI agent was injured Monday morning when a gun went off in the loading dock area of the federal courthouse in Philadelphia.
Uh huh. ‘I dunno what happened! I was just walking along and BOOM! The gun just WENT OFF! Honest, boss!’
Get this line that was written by a “journalist” and approved by an editor . . .
It was not immediately clear if the agent shot himself, or if another agent accidentally discharged. *titter, snort*Another agent “accidentally discharging” isn’t a mental picture we really wanted on a Monday. Thanks for nothing, 6 Action News.
Not that it should be necessary to say this, but however this happened — whether the wounded agent was d!cking around with his pistol and shot himself or a fellow agent did it for him, this wasn’t an oopsie type of “accident.” In all probability it was a negligent discharge resulting from someone mishandling a firearm. Modern guns don’t just “go off.” But you already knew that.
Rest assured, however . . .
The FBI is now investigating the shooting.
I confess: the article made me giggle a little. 
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August 29, 2022, 05:38 PM
konata88Every time we have one of these incidents:
1. If the gun really "just went off" then they should pull all guns of the same make/model from the field until a root cause has been found and addressed.
OR
2. If the gun went off because of negligence, the agent should be fired for lack of intelligence and integrity.
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"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book August 29, 2022, 05:43 PM
Ryanp225The fact that this moron was handling a hot pistol behind a building is reason enough to fire his ass.
Hell, if this happened at my local USPSA shoot he'd be invited to never come back. I'd hope the fucking fbi would hold a similar standard.
August 29, 2022, 06:32 PM
Black92LXquote:
Originally posted by Ryanp225:
The fact that this moron was handling a hot pistol behind a building is reason enough to fire his ass.
You realize he likely had no choice. He does not get to carry a firearm into a Federal Court House.
The parking lots are generally in the back.
It’s problematic that it discharged. Simply handling a firearm behind a building not so much in and of itself.
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August 29, 2022, 06:38 PM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
He does not get to carry a firearm into a Federal Court House.
Never knew that. Only Marshals?
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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner. August 29, 2022, 06:55 PM
corsairSounds like Detective Allen Gamble went from NYPD to the FBI
August 29, 2022, 07:00 PM
MikeinNCquote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
Never knew that. Only Marshals?
^^ Only marshals.
But, me and another city officer were testifying in the federal court in Raleigh. We were in uniform and had to check our pistols in lockers the marshals had there. No one asked about BUGs. So technically I did carry a gun into a federal courthouse.
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DennisMSo, that's a shared building. Half is courthouse and half is a mix of other agencies (including FBI.)
The loading dock is not really part of the "heading to the USMS cellblock" route, but it is on the "heading to the freight elevators" route... which is not the sterile, courthouse side (so no need to clear/secure your stuff) and no other obvious reason to manipulate a weapon. So, who knows.
But I'm confident that they'll thoroughly investigate the incident, determine any root or systemic issues, and make the world a safer place. Or something.
August 29, 2022, 11:32 PM
357fuzzUS Marshals, DSO’s, and CSO’s are allowed to pack heat in fed courthouses. All others have to lock them up.
August 30, 2022, 08:55 AM
Av8nShooterStories like this covered by moronic journalists do nothing to assuage the fears too many people have of law enforcement officers routinely carrying firearms among the public.
August 30, 2022, 09:42 AM
KDRquote:
Originally posted by corsair:
Sounds like Detective Allen Gamble went from NYPD to the FBI
Loading Dock Pop?
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