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Originally posted by egregore:
All the weather/climate events that have caused widespread human suffering were times of cold. Two of them, caused by massive volcanic eruptions half a world away, occurred in 536 (AD) and 1816. The aftereffects lasted many years after that.

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Originally posted by cruiser68:

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Originally posted by Loswsmith:

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Originally posted by cruiser68:

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Originally posted by Nick42:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cruiser68:.

If you told somebody in 1900 that we were going to send people to Mars they would have discounted it 100% as laughable. Just saying

Wait, so you think we have actually sent people to Mars? Or did you mean the Moon?

I said going to send people to mars.

That’s ok, I won’t bother any of you anymore with my foolishness. Carry on.

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Why can't we plan to send people to Uranus after we master the weather?

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Originally posted by cruiser68:
The premise was if you can shift the jet stream you can alter climate in a large country bringing drought or rains to the growing belts.

I’m no conspiracy theorist but I am an engineer with some analytical thinking.

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Originally posted by cruiser68:
So I guess the History channel was pure fabrication? I’m not suggesting they can create hurricanes or that they steered the hurricanes. But to completely discount this is a mistake imo. They had scientists talking about the efforts to move the jet stream to alter weather patterns. The premise was if you can shift the jet stream you can alter climate in a large country bringing drought or rains to the growing belts.

I’m no conspiracy theorist but I am an engineer with some analytical thinking. I found it very plausible with the info they provided that governments have been working on this. But hey, what do I know.

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Houston’s forecast has not changed much, so let’s talk about weather control
October 9, 2024 at 7:16 am by Eric Berger

A few words about weather control

Before we get into the forecast—and there is a treat in the outlook for next week, with a nice front that should finally put the cool in cool front—I feel compelled to address the rise of misinformation spreading online about weather control. This problem has become especially acute in light of the terrible inland flooding from Hurricane Helene last month, and the impending landfall of what surely will be a highly catastrophic Hurricane Milton.

If you’re wondering what I’m talking about, Wired has a good rundown on some of these conspiracy theories. Essentially the claim is that, for political reasons, the US government is manipulating the weather to harm its political opponents. I want to be absolutely clear about this: Space City Weather is apolitical. We never talk politics because, frankly, no one cares what our politics are. The weather certainly doesn’t care. The sole point of this post is to address the question of whether weather control is possible, and if it is happening.

It is true that people have been trying to control the weather for a long time, for various reasons. The most prominent form of weather control is cloud seeding, in which aircraft introduce silver iodide into clouds to act as nuclei, and serve as a basis for condensation. This can lead to rain or snow. However, the best available evidence suggests the impact of cloud seeding is limited, perhaps increasing precipitation by 10 percent or so in optimal conditions.

Now comes the important part: There was no cloud seeding during Hurricane Helene, which produced extreme flooding well inland. None. Why would there be? It is in no one’s interest to increase the precipitation from a tropical system. Yes, there are government planes flying into storms. But those are NOAA hurricane hunters, gathering data about the storm to better inform you, and protect those in harm’s way. That is your government, working for you.

And what if they were cloud seeding? Because hurricanes are so large, any attempt to implement cloud seeding would be negligible. As for trying to modify where a tropical cyclone will go, there is no conceivable mechanism to do that. When we consider the steering currents that guide storms, we are talking about atmospheric forces that span continents, with energies that far surpass what humans can generate. If you tried to take our most powerful nuclear weapons and drop them in a hurricane to disrupt their movement, all you would do is spread harmful radiation.


Map showing the track of all tropical storms that passed within 200 miles of Milton’s formation point. Florida landfalls from this location are rare, but far from unprecedented. (NOAA)

Some people have questioned the movement of Milton, from west to east, across the Gulf of Mexico. That certainly looks strange, doesn’t it? Well, sure. But weather does strange things all the time. The movement of a hurricane from west to east across the Gulf of Mexico is not unprecedented, and in this case the meteorological reasons for Milton’s movement are well understood. The track of Milton was predicted many days in advance by weather models from organizations around the world. Are they all in on the game? Let’s be real. There is nothing artificial about the storm’s track.

In our comments yesterday, some readers asked about “chemtrails” or the “High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program” being used to modify or influence the weather. The bottom line is that no, this is not happening, and if someone nefarious wanted to use them to influence our weather, these kinds of interventions would be ineffective.

Here’s the bottom line. There are plenty of places on the internet where one find this sort of conspiracy-fueled nonsense. You can find “videos” to support almost anything, or “do your own research” and come to whatever conclusions you like. But Space City Weather is a website driven by evidence, and the best available science. If your intent is to weaponize misinformation about the weather, you’re not welcome here. All you are doing is making a miserable experience for people affected by hurricanes worse.

We have no agenda here but to try and put out the most accurate forecasts possible. That is the sole reason we show up every day. If Matt and I saw the weather behaving in an artificial way, we would be shouting from the rooftops. But it’s not. Helene and Milton are powerful hurricanes doing very bad things. A busy and destructive hurricane season was forecast this past spring, partly because the Atlantic Ocean is so very warm due to a warming climate. Unfortunately, that’s what we’re seeing play out.

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
. The mass of air is surprisingly high. The momentum of moving air is thus quite high. Changing the jetstream would require energy levels produced by the sun.