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Mob attacks black man at prayer vigil (for being conservative!)

August 18, 2017

A young man attending a prayer vigil in Charlottesville — a black man who belongs to the Young Americans Foundation, a conservative youth group — claims he was physically attacked by a mob of white liberal thugs this weekend.

Caleb Slater says he was at a service memorializing the innocent 32-year-old woman that was killed when a car drove into a crowd of protesters. When members of the alt-left saw him wearing a Young Americans Foundation hat, they quickly moved in.

What followed was disturbing.

Slater explained to Legal Insurrection that the reason he wore the hat was “to show that conservatives condemn the actions of the alt-right just as much as anyone else in our culture.”

This brave display was ignored as violent alt-left “Antifa” members and other liberals harassed him with shouts and jeers, which he caught on camera in a short video clip.

In the video, the protesters can be heard shouting “You’re not welcome here! Get out!” despite Slater’s insistence that he’s acting peacefully and minding his own business.

“One of the girls from Antifa, dressed in all black, began to shout me down and ask, ‘Are you with right wing media? Why do you have the fu**ing hat on? You’re with Young America’s Foundation?’” Slater reports. “I simply responded by informing them that I meant no harm and was peacefully assembling.”

The alt-left thugs became even more aggressive, yelling “We don’t want you here!” Slater claims. He says a mob began grabbing and pulling on his camera to prevent him from filming, and during the scuffle someone began choking him.

Of course, there’s no outrage from the mainstream media after a mob of white youths attacks and chokes a young black man at a prayer vigil for a victim of hate — but only because he was a conservative.

Imagine what the media would say if it had been a black liberal attacked by a group of white conservatives at a prayer vigil?

The media firestorm would call for their heads!

The confrontation escalated when someone in the alt-left mob took his hat off his head and threw it on the ground, Slater said, before grabbing him by the shirt and pushing him into the busy street.

“This was NOT a blocked off road and cars were present. I could have gotten run over and they did not care,” Slater emphasizes.

And they expect us to think they are the tolerant left?

But no one is reporting on this assault of a young teen trying to speak out against the injustices committed by crazy neo-Nazis.

It’s further that liberals don’t care to distinguish between honest conservatives who are fighting for justice and the violent criminals who preach hate.

Caleb Slater is the president of College Republicans at Ithaca College.

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The Lincoln administration had never proposed to interfere with slavery where it existed. This position was very consistent. They were unwilling to let it expand. The "House Divided" speech (from a few years earlier) was about the possibility that slavery could become legal everywhere.

This was true prior to the war. However during the war one thing that seems relevant is that Lincoln abolished slavery in the only place over which he had jurisdiction: Washington, DC.

Regarding your earlier post, I understand (mostly from hearing Dr. Larry Arnn on Hugh Hewitt) that slavery was intentionally being allowed to die out (no importation of slaves after 1807, for example). The combination of the economic incentive arising from the invention of the cotton gin and the importation of Hegelian philosophy (Calhoun was a Hegel guy!) in the 1830's-1840's led to slavery being treated in the South as a positive good, rather than the evil it was. Those German philosophers have screwed up the world every chance they got!

I find it...amazing...that there is confusion only 156 years after our own civil war about why it happened.

There was plenty of documentation before, during, and after. It's not like we're talking about the Minoans here.

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:...
There was plenty of documentation before, during, and after. ...

was...

For the record.

You want black and white separation?

Let me 'splin it to you from my POV.

I would never have made a purchase of a person, unless I thought I could make them "free" under my own roof.

Just how it is with me.

Any person who is decent, kind, respectful and is responsible to and for self, is my "brother", and I'll go to the ends for you.

The opposite, I'll die for the cause.

That ought to just about make it as clear in black and white as I can.

Hell, 6 Flags Amusement parks are now 1 Flags Amusement parks.

This whole nonsense is mind-boggling.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/tre...eport-says/594863899

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ARLINGTON, Texas - From now on, only one flag will fly over Six Flags amusement parks.

Six Flags Over Texas park officials confirmed that the six different flags that had previously flown over the park, including the Confederate States of America flag, will be replaced by six American flags, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports.

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“We always choose to focus on celebrating the things that unite us versus those that divide us,” a Six Flags spokeswoman told the paper. “As such, we have changed the flag displays in our parks to feature American flags.”

The decision was made after the park received criticism for reportedly saying that it had no plans to remove the Confederate flag in light of the recent events in Charlottesville, Virginia.

TMZ reported Wednesday that it had spoken with park officials at Arlington’s Six Flags Over Texas and been told that there were “no plans” to remove the Confederate States of America flag that flies over the entrance of the park.

The six different flags that fly at the park are the six different flags that have flown over Texas throughout history.

While speaking with TMZ, officials reportedly differentiated between the Confederate battle flag and the “Stars and Bars” flag, which is the one flown at the amusement park.

Officials said that park visitors are “astute enough to know the difference.”

According to the Star-Telegram, flags are only flown at the Arlington, San Antonio and Georgia locations of the park. They will all only fly American flags from now on.

Damnit, Texas, we expect better from you.

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The combination of the economic incentive arising from the invention of the cotton gin and the importation of Hegelian philosophy (Calhoun was a Hegel guy!) in the 1830's-1840's led to slavery being treated in the South as a positive good, rather than the evil it was. Those German philosophers have screwed up the world every chance they got!

Yes.
Slavery began to be widely accepted as wrong, even by many in the South.
Most of those who wanted to keep it adopted Hegelian philosophy as a convenient justification.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:...
There was plenty of documentation before, during, and after. ...

was...

Well, they weren't stored at the Library of Alexandria...

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:...
There was plenty of documentation before, during, and after. ...

was...

Well, they weren't stored at the Library of Alexandria...

LOL

I wonder what will happen when these goddam loons realize there are schools like Virginia Military Institute and The Citadel.

I bet there are some Keydets waiting to kick some snowflake ass. They take their M-14 firing pins, but they get to keep their bayonets. And they have cadets on guard 24/7.

So again, we have white seperatists - leftists, and antifa - leftists, fighting and someone dies.

Conservatives not present and condemning the actions of both violent groups gets blamed for the problem.

Violence by the enforcement arm of the democrat party - antifa & blm - ignored.

No bias in the media, suuuure it is...

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
Hell, 6 Flags Amusement parks are now 1 Flags Amusement parks.

This whole nonsense is mind-boggling.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/tre...eport-says/594863899

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Facebook Email
ARLINGTON, Texas - From now on, only one flag will fly over Six Flags amusement parks.

Six Flags Over Texas park officials confirmed that the six different flags that had previously flown over the park, including the Confederate States of America flag, will be replaced by six American flags, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports.

>> Read more trending news

“We always choose to focus on celebrating the things that unite us versus those that divide us,” a Six Flags spokeswoman told the paper. “As such, we have changed the flag displays in our parks to feature American flags.”

The decision was made after the park received criticism for reportedly saying that it had no plans to remove the Confederate flag in light of the recent events in Charlottesville, Virginia.

TMZ reported Wednesday that it had spoken with park officials at Arlington’s Six Flags Over Texas and been told that there were “no plans” to remove the Confederate States of America flag that flies over the entrance of the park.

The six different flags that fly at the park are the six different flags that have flown over Texas throughout history.

While speaking with TMZ, officials reportedly differentiated between the Confederate battle flag and the “Stars and Bars” flag, which is the one flown at the amusement park.

Officials said that park visitors are “astute enough to know the difference.”

According to the Star-Telegram, flags are only flown at the Arlington, San Antonio and Georgia locations of the park. They will all only fly American flags from now on.

Damnit, Texas, we expect better from you.

I'm guessing 6FOT is not owned by a Texan, anyway.

flashguy

The Mayor finally responded:


Charlottesville mayor seeks removal of Confederate monuments, calls Lee statue ‘magnet for terrorism’
By Neal Augenstein | @AugensteinWTOP August 18, 2017 5:19 pm

The statue of Confederate general Robert E. Lee is seen in Charlottesville's Emancipation Park Aug. 14, 2017. Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer said he now supports removing the Lee monument and other Confederate memorials. (WTOP/Neal Augenstein)

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — Almost a week after deadly violence on the streets of his city during a white nationalist rally, Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer is asking Virginia’s governor and lawmakers to call an emergency session, with the goal of enabling localities to remove Confederate statues.

In a statement, Signer said the killing of Heather Heyer forced him to change his opinion on whether the statue honoring Confederate General Robert E. Lee should be removed from Emancipation Park. Signer had previously voted to leave the statue in place, but add new context around it with plaques or other statues.

“Last weekend changed everything,” wrote Signer. “I realized at Heather’s memorial service that our Confederate statues’ historical meaning has been changed forever.”

Hundreds of mourners packed into a downtown Charlottesville theater wearing Heather Heyer’s favorite color: purple. See photos of the memorial.
“It’s historical meaning now, and forevermore, will be of a magnet for terrorism,” Signer wrote.

Virginia state law says localities cannot disturb existing war memorials.

Charlottesville’s city council voted to remove its statue of Lee, but a circuit court judge issued a 6-month stay after opponents filed a lawsuit. The city intends to sell the Lee statue.

This week McAuliffe reversed his previous position on war memorials, saying he now wants Confederate statues relocated to museums, as they have become a “barrier to progress, inclusion and equality in Virginia.”

Signer said last week’s “terrorist attack” and the grace of Heyer’s mother, Susan Bro, in seeking “righteous action” in the wake of her daughter’s killing prompted his change of heart.

“We must respond by denying the Nazis and the KKK and the so-called alt-right the twisted totem they seek,” Signer wrote. “For the sake of public safety, public reassurance, to magnify Heather’s voice, and to repudiate the pure evil that visited us here, I am calling today for the removal of these Confederate statues from downtown Charlottesville.”

Signer called on the governor and the General Assembly to come together in a special session “to enable localities to determine the fate of monuments like the Lee statue.”

“Whether they go to museums, cemeteries, or other willing institutions, it is clear that they no longer can be celebrated in shared civic areas, like Charlottesville’s Downtown Mall,” he wrote.

In addition, Signer said he is calling on lawmakers to allow localities to ban the open or concealed carrying of weapons during public events that could reasonably pose a potential security threat.

Hundreds of armed white nationalists legally carried weapons during last Friday night’s torchlit march onto University of Virginia grounds, and Saturday’s rally through downtown Charlottesville.

Scuffles between protesters and counterprotesters did not escalate into gunfire, but 32-year-old Heyer was killed, allegedly by James Alex Fields, Jr., 20, of Ohio, when he drove his Dodge Challenger down 4th Street into a crowd of counterprotesters.

“In a new age of domestic terrorism, we need to re-examine the balance that we strike between public safety and violent protests,” Signer said.

“First, the danger is too great of a catastrophic incident,” he said. “Second, it is intimidating beyond any reasonable standard for citizens, particularly members of vulnerable communities.”

Finally, Signer encouraged Charlottesville residents to consider ways to memorialize Heyer’s name “and ensure her death and the message of her life will never be forgotten.”

Signer referred to Heyer as “a martyr.”

“I believe we must act to consecrate the memory of Heather Heyer,” said Signer, encouraging the city to “take concrete steps to memorialize Heather’s name and legacy.”

Signer originally intended to announce his recommendations in a news conference, but canceled it two hours before it was scheduled to begin.

By late Friday afternoon, McAuliffe had not responded to Signer’s call for a special session.

Late Friday, Charlottesville police charged Fields with 5 additional felonies — two counts of malicious wounding and three counts of aggravated malicious wounding.

He had previously been charged with second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding, and hit and run.

http://wtop.com/virginia/2017/...ng-magnet-terrorism/

In addition, Signer said he is calling on lawmakers to allow localities to ban the open or concealed carrying of weapons during public events that could reasonably pose a potential security threat.

“In a new age of domestic terrorism, we need to re-examine the balance that we strike between public safety and violent protests,” Signer said.

Finally, Signer encouraged Charlottesville residents to consider ways to memorialize Heyer’s name “and ensure her death and the message of her life will never be forgotten.”

Signer referred to Heyer as “a martyr.”

Signer's statement sounds very much like something I have heard before.

We defeated them during WWII.

This relentless onslaught of Nazi news must be sinking in. People I previously assumed were functionally intelligent are now talking about Nazis like they are a real problem in America. Nazis are about as popular as having the Zika virus and about as common yet here they are 24 hours a day talking about them. I have been forced to unplug from just about everything other than Sigforum for the fear of flying off the handle. This is as crazy as I have ever seen it in America and it's scary.

You should have two liberals living on either side of you. A real experience if you don't see their way.

41, that story is great, but around Charlottesville, everyone already knew his stance on the statue. He was just looking for a backdoor to getting it removed and he found it. This was a highly orchestrated and concerted effort by the left to get emotions so high that something was bound to happen. Now, every lefty out there will be trying to ride the surge of "morality" to get every statue that offends them taken down.

http://www.timesnews.net/Blog/...l?ci=stream&lp=3&p=1

Robert E. Lee is not a symbol of hate

“I think it the duty of every citizen in the present condition of the country to do all in their power to aid in the restoration of peace and harmony.” — Robert E. Lee, four months after the end of the Civil War.

This past weekend I watched on social media as the violence erupted in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Through online videos from local and network television, as well as uploaded by the protesters, I watched what looked like a medieval battle as members of Antifa and Black Lives Matter fought with neo-Nazis and KKK members, each side using shields, clubs and throwing rocks.

Then came the videos of the car plowing through the protesters, running into the back of another car. Protesters with clubs began pounding the car, which then backed through the crowd, dragging people as it went. One guy ran around videoing the victims and saying over and over, “I got the whole thing on video.”

Disgusted, I click off the site.

I was angry, not only at the violence I saw but the cause of it.

Members of the city council and the mayor of Charlottesville, in a move of political correctness, voted to remove the statue of Robert E. Lee, portraying it not as a historical monument but a symbol of hate because Lee fought for the Confederacy.

Their actions set up the city as a flashpoint for violence from several hate groups.

But R.E. Lee is not a symbol of hate.

It was not hate that drove him to join the Confederacy.

For a moment I would like for you to forget your political beliefs, forget what you’ve heard in the media and what you’ve been told.

Clear your mind and put yourself in the place of Lee in 1861. You’re a colonel in the United States Army defending a nation that your family played a major role in founding.

Your father, Henry “Light Horse Harry” Lee, was a cavalry commander for George Washington. Another relative, Richard Henry Lee, made the motion in the Second Continental Congress calling for the colonies' independence from Great Britain. His “resolution for independency” of June 1776 led to the United States Declaration of Independence, which Richard H. Lee signed.

Then Virginia, your birthplace and the home of your family, secedes. Regardless of the reason, be it a disagreement over states rights, slavery or tariffs, the deed is done and your home is no longer part of the United States.

In addition, both Virginia and the United States have offered you army commands.

You have two choices.

One, you think secession is wrong (which Lee did) and choose the United States, turning your back on your family and leading an invasion to attack and subdue the place of your birth to keep the nation united.

Or two, you turn your back on the nation your family founded and choose Virginia to defend your family and your home, or your country as many called their state in the 1860s.

Lee chose to serve Virginia not out of hate against a race of people but for love of family and home. And once he made his choice he felt it his duty to dedicate his full efforts to defending the rights of his new country.

When Lee took command of the army, it was duty and not hate that drove him in battle. He never called the Federal forces the enemy. He always called them “those people.”

“I have fought against the people of the North because I believed they were seeking to wrest from the South its dearest rights,” wrote Lee. “But I have never cherished toward them bitter or vindictive feelings, and have never seen the day when I did not pray for them.”

Even when the war ended in defeat, Lee expressed no hatred. When one of his former generals, Jubal Early, expressed hatred for Yankees, Lee responded, “Controversy will only serve to prolong angry and bitter feelings and postpone the period when reason and charity may resume their sway.”

As a role model for the defeated South, it was Lee that demonstrated acceptance of former slaves now free.

Less than a month after the end of the war, Lee was attending services at St. Paul’s Episcopal Church in Richmond. When it came time for communion, a black man came forward and knelt at the rail. Everyone in the church froze, no white person would take communion next to him. It was Lee who rose and walked forward to kneel next to the black man and take communion. With Lee setting the example, the rest of the congregation followed.

In an 1874 speech, U.S. Congressman Benjamin H. Hill spoke of Lee and said the following.

“He was a foe without hate; a friend without treachery; a soldier without cruelty; a victor without oppression, and a victim without murmuring. He was a public officer without vices; a private citizen without wrong; a neighbor without reproach; a Christian without hypocrisy, and a man without guile. He was a Caesar, without his ambition; Frederick, without his tyranny; Napoleon, without his selfishness, and Washington, without his reward.”

In the end, Robert E. Lee was a man who had to choose between some of the worst options in history. And he made his decisions with honor, dignity, integrity and without hate.

Doesn’t a person like that deserve a monument?

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
Hell, 6 Flags Amusement parks are now 1 Flags Amusement parks.

This whole nonsense is mind-boggling.

Damnit, Texas, we expect better from you.

I'm guessing 6FOT is not owned by a Texan, anyway.

flashguy

Six Flags Entertainment Corporation is publicly owned and trades under the ticker symbol SIX. Company headquarters are still in Texas, but management's job is to make money, not to educate the public. (Although I did find the story of the six flags that have flown over Texas to be educational as a child.)

Lee and Grant were two great individuals that were responsible for putting the country back together after the war.

At around 1:30 in the afternoon on April 9, Lee and Grant met at the McLean House in the village with a group of officers. The Union general granted Lee favorable terms of surrender: allowing the men to return to their homes and letting the officers, cavalrymen, and artillerymen keep their swords and horses if the men agreed to lay down their arms and abide by federal law. Grant even supplied food to the Rebels, who were desperately low on rations. Grant's leniency – together with Lee's reluctance to risk a guerrilla war – can be partially credited for the relative peacefulness of the Reconstruction.

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If slavery wasn't the main reason for secession, why was slavery the subject of last-minute attempts to avoid secession, such as this one?

Slavery was the abortion issue of the day. Nobody was neutral. Nobody was willing to compromise. States rights federalism and such did not engender the emotion of slavery.

The Civil War has been argued as a "conservative revolt." The southern states saw their power waning. The North and West were growing and the the the new states would be on wasn't suitable for the cash crops the South grew (cotton, rice, tobacco, indigo) in short, Southeners saw their way of life ending. Lincoln's election was accomplished despite his name not appearing on Southern ballots. The South vote was split among three candidates but the rest of the nation had more then enough votes to elect Lincoln. The South faced the lose of its power.

All the "states rights" arguements seem fail when the confederate constitution is examined. Arguably, the Southern states lost power that they had under the Constitution.

Last, Alexander Stephens and his "cornerstone speech." He spoke of the new constitution and the benefits of it. Then he addressed slavery:

"But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other -- though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature;