Or, it's eyesight. Everyone of these bastards could see. No blind mass shooters to be found.
We need to put everyone's eyes out.


Man, I miss Doc Steve and his dogshit covered pointy stick...

"Prescription For Violence: The Corresponding Rise of Antidepressants, SSRIs & Mass Shootings". An article with such a thread title deserves to be trashed without opening it.

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Originally posted by Blume9mm:
The problem is it is the same 'logic' used by folks to blame the gun used.... there are millions of people on antidepressants and only a very small number of them have ever done mass murder.... same thing with guns... millions out there and a very small number used in mass killings.

It's got nothing to do with guns, and if we destroyed every gun in the country and imprisoned every gun owner the media would switch over to demanding eye scanners in every vehicle following the inevitable truck attack like they had in Nice, France a few years ago.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Complete and total horseshit.

The “rise” in “mass shootings” fall directly on the fact that when gang bangers kill a bunch of people at a party, it’s now a “mass shootong”. Has zero to do with anti depressants or any of the other crap.

Mass shootings are no more prevalent now than they have been in the last 20 years. It’s just that both sides of the coin have learned to profit from crack pot theories.

That jljones is a smart guy.

Agreed, there are no more "mass shootings" now than there were ever, when you use the traditional definition of mass shootings.

But when any murder involving three or four gangsters is defined as a "mass shooting," there are more. The St. Valentines' Day massacre by Al Capone's thugs was not a mass shooting then, but it would be now.

Although other parallels are also fun to note - Al Capone's violence also lead to gun control legislation (the 1934 NFA) that have done little to nothing to curb crime, and have only disabled us from being able to buy a Thompson gun at Sears.

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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by slosig: 3) If 13% of the population needs antidepressants, than we’re probably doing something wrong.

Would you feel better if they were alcoholics or opioid abusers?

No, not at all. And maybe the “Leave it to Beaver” days weren’t all as good as they were portrayed either.

It just seem like something, whether it was morals, church, support from a functioning nuclear family or supportive community ought to be able to give people enough sense of purpose and agency that they didn’t need antidepressants, alcohol addiction, or opioid addiction to get by in life.

Given that we are in the mess that we are in, it is probably a blessing that antidepressants are an available tool to use to help that 13%. It just seem like 13% is an awfully high percentage to need that help.

I suppose it is entirely possible that it’s always been that way, but it was just hidden. It sure seems like a lot of deeply unhappy people though.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Or, it's eyesight. Everyone of these bastards could see. No blind mass shooters to be found.
We need to put everyone's eyes out.


Man, I miss Doc Steve and his dogshit covered pointy stick...

What ever happened to Doc Steve?

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Originally posted by slosig:
I suppose it is entirely possible that it’s always been that way, but it was just hidden. It sure seems like a lot of deeply unhappy people though.

I think it always was, but nobody talked about it. Some of the same people that now take SSRIs were the ones that would stop off at the bar after work to "unwind" or come home pissed off and beat the hell out of their wife and/or kids. I have no idea what the percentages are, but SSRIs are also used for conditions like general anxiety, etc. The 13% are not all being treated for depression.

It's obviously the rise in gun violence. Most responsible law abiding gun owners keep their guns in secured places such as safes, locked closets, etc.

But the gang bangers don't bother with this nonsense. And when you have many untold thousands of guns lying around unattended, probably witnessing domestic violence among their owners, they are bound to be violent. Something must be done to curb their compulsive behavior.

Maybe a gun whisperer? Blaming the nice folks who enable their behavior is not dealing with the root cause. Forget the Zoloft. I've found that calming music and soothing words can do wonders in transforming a violent gun into a virtual teddy bear.

Be kind.

There was a site (Since Removed) that had the incident and the prescribed meds that the shooter(s) were on I posted it here several years ago.

Here is a good link to these drugs.

https://www.drugs.com/drug-cla...antidepressants.html

From my street level view, and having been to a few of these "mass shootings", I've found that marijuana is definitely one of the major drugs that the shooters are on.

But that's just my perspective from standing on 79th Street, or 63rd Street, and it probably varies greatly from the Las Vegas incident, or any of the school shootings.

Chicago had a "Here, hold my beer" moment a few days ago and we had two mass shootings within 10 minutes of each other, then another mass shooting a few hours later.

https://www.chicagotribune.com...poa3sqxba-story.html

This isn't what your "average Joe" would think when the words "mass shooting" gets thrown out there, this isn't some lone male white with a "weapon of war" or "military grade weapons". Theses shootings are some shithead gang bangers from the south or west side. Mostly handguns, the occasional AR or AK. Drink a little liquor, smoke a little weed, maybe a little bump of cocaine, find target of opportunity, point, pull trigger until you're out of ammo, leave, continue to get drunk and high, maybe brag a little on Facebook. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Yeah. MJ makes sense. It is not like the gangbangers see an ad on Facebook for an SSRI and run down to Urgentcare for a script. SSRIs are not listed as drugs of abuse like Adderall or Xanax.

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
From my street level view, and having been to a few of these "mass shootings", I've found that marijuana is definitely one of the major drugs that the shooters are on…

^^^^^^

My experience is similar (from the suit and tie section of the criminal justice system). I rarely see someone go to prison or receive a long jail sentence that doesn’t have a marijuana history.