Two U.S. Navy aviators are safe after their two-seat F/A-18F Super Hornet was shot down by an American ship by mistake, according to a late Saturday statement from U.S. Central Command.
The Super Hornet, assigned to aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75), was flying over the Red Sea when guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG-64) fired upon it, according to the CENTCOM statement.
“Both pilots were safely recovered. Initial assessments indicate that one of the crew members sustained minor injuries,” reads a statement from CENTCOM. “This incident was not the result of hostile fire, and a full investigation is underway.”
A Navy official told USNI News the incident occurred around 3 a.m. local time on Sunday or about 7 p.m. East Coast time on Saturday. The Super Hornet was assigned to Carrier Air Wing One, and embarked aboard Truman, an official told USNI News. While the CENTCOM statement didn’t specify the squadron, the only two-seat F/A-18F squadron embarked aboard Truman are the “Red Rippers” of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 11 from Naval Air Station Oceana, Va.
The strike group is tasked as part of the U.S.-led Operation Prosperity Guardian, the mission to protect merchant traffic in the Red Sea from Houthi attacks from Yemen. Previous strike groups and independently deployed U.S. guided-missile warships have intercepted dozens of drones, guided cruise missiles and ballstic missiles as part of their mission.
Over the weekend, U.S. forces attacked the Yemeni capital of Sanna striking a missile storage facility and a command and control node, according to a Saturday statement from CENTCOM.
“CENTCOM forces conducted the deliberate strikes to disrupt and degrade Houthi operations, such as attacks against U.S. Navy warships and merchant vessels in the Southern Red Sea, Bab al-Mandeb, and Gulf of Aden,” reads the statement.
Gettysburg, homeported at Naval Station Norfolk, Va., is assigned to Truman and entered the Red Sea with the carrier last week, according to the USNI News Fleet and Marine Tracker.
The commander of the cruiser is the air defense commander for the strike group and is responsible for detecting and defeating threats to the carrier and its escorts.
The cruiser has more than 100 vertical launch cells capable of firing missiles capable of intercepting a variety of threats. Officials have not yet disclosed the weapon the crew of the cruiser used in the incident.
Truman, its escorts and airwing deployed from Norfolk on Sept 23. Before entering the Red Sea, the strike group operated in the Atlantic off Norway and the U.K.
The following is the complete statement from U.S. Central Command.
TAMPA, Fla. – Two U.S. Navy pilots ejected safely over the Red Sea during the early morning hours of December 22 when their F/A-18 fighter aircraft was shot down in an apparent case of friendly fire.
The guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), which is part of the USS Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group, mistakenly fired on and hit the F/A-18, which was flying off the USS Harry S. Truman.
Both pilots were safely recovered. Initial assessments indicate that one of the crew members sustained minor injuries. This incident was not the result of hostile fire, and a full investigation is underway.
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December 22, 2024, 12:47 AM
YooperSigs
Ok... So drones can overfly our naval vessels and bases in perfect safety but we shoot down our own aircraft? Fantastic! Wait... Isnt there this thing called IFF?
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December 22, 2024, 02:00 AM
sigmonkey
IFF does not work in OFF mode....
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December 22, 2024, 03:26 AM
Bytes
DEI overrides IFF. Not sure if this was DEI but this shit seems to be getting more common
December 22, 2024, 04:51 AM
trapper189
Someone thought they saw a drone:
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December 22, 2024, 04:55 AM
PowerSurge
For $900,000,000,000 a year, you too can shoot down your own aircraft and wreck your own ships. What a bargain.
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December 22, 2024, 05:52 AM
Balzé Halzé
Gotta be shitting me.
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December 22, 2024, 05:59 AM
mojojojo
Sounds like another command billet will be opening up soon.
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December 22, 2024, 06:05 AM
4MUL8R
1. F/A 18 cannot evade US AA missile, suggesting that AA missiles are superior and would protect against typical threats 2. Carrier protection against fourth-generation fighters is good, with detection, ranging, and deployment of missiles occuring as designed 3. Commmand and control, decision-making, and safeguards against friendly fire are suboptimal.
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December 22, 2024, 06:08 AM
petr
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey: IFF does not work in OFF mode....
I had a repair ticket for this when I was in.
December 22, 2024, 07:13 AM
Mars_Attacks
Who or rather WAHT commands the Gettysburg?
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December 22, 2024, 07:13 AM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by 4MUL8R: 1. F/A 18 cannot evade US AA missile, suggesting that AA missiles are superior and would protect against typical threats 2. Carrier protection against fourth-generation fighters is good, with detection, ranging, and deployment of missiles occuring as designed 3. Commmand and control, decision-making, and safeguards against friendly fire are suboptimal.
As far as points 1 and 2, can a conclusion be drawn from a sucker punch?
December 22, 2024, 07:19 AM
ibanda
Somebody's getting fired!
I have a few SIGs.
December 22, 2024, 07:41 AM
Imabmwnut
Dumbass
December 22, 2024, 07:46 AM
egregore
quote:
Two U.S. Navy aviators are safe …
Still alive, yes, but their careers as aviators - in terms of actually flying planes - are, if not ended, at least shortened. The ejection process is extremely hard on the human body.
December 22, 2024, 07:59 AM
229DAK
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
quote:
Two U.S. Navy aviators are safe …
Still alive, yes, but their careers as aviators - in terms of actually flying planes - are, if not ended, at least shortened. The ejection process is extremely hard on the human body.
They'll be all the talk at the next Tailhook.
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December 22, 2024, 08:03 AM
mojojojo
I look forward to Ward Carrol's take/discussion on this incident which will likely come out in the next day or two.
Icarus flew too close to the sun, but at least he flew.
December 22, 2024, 08:03 AM
PASig
WTAF is going on with the US Navy this year???
I think they’ve fired more commanders this past year than ever before.
Are things that bad?
December 22, 2024, 08:04 AM
hray
If the F/A 18 was on a strike mission it probably went like this. They left the carrier and when they went feet dry IFF goes off and further Comms and tracking is taken over by AWACS. Post delivering their package and upon returning feet wet they probably forgot in the haste and excitement to turn on IFF. Now the "AW" the air defense commander is typically out front and closer to the shore than the rest of battle group. Not much reaction time to confirm inbond missile or friendly air craft.
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December 22, 2024, 10:00 AM
SpinZone
I can’t wait to get more information about this.
Having been the air warfare commander (AW, radio call sign “Alpha Whiskey”) for task groups I can tell you there is going to be epic levels of fail. Before reaching the AAW missile engagement zone (MEZ), which is a ring around the carrier out to maybe 80-100 miles depending, and is the responsibility of the screening surface ship's, the F18 had to clear the fighter engagements zone (FEZ) which is another defensive ring that starts 10-20 miles outside the MEZ and is the responsibility of the combat air patrol (CAP) which are sets of fighters that are under AW's control and are used to identify and engage any threats in the FEZ as directed by AW. Meanwhile, every contact being tracked or self reporting in the data net is being shared with every unit in the network. Joe sailor can zoom out his display and see every bit of information from platforms 500 miles away. And military IFF is an encrypted system that can only be read by receivers with the correct codes, it’s different from the IFF used by civilian aviation.
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