When I saw that they think it is structural failure, I think of this incident:

It was a KC-130T from NY, not an AC-130 (who don't carry passengers).

Pax movement like this is a normal CONUS mission, with the bladder out.

Sounds like catastrophic structural failure; I'm struggling to guess what else could cause it to fall from cruise altitude.

Very sad.

Till Valhalla warriors.

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:

It was a KC-130T from NY, not an AC-130 (who don't carry passengers)....

Sounds like USMCR out of Stewart Field (formerly AFB) in Newburgh. NYANG has C-5s there.

Regardless of the cause, this is a whole lotta suck.

RIP.

Turns out there were 7 members of MARSOC on that plane as well. They do not have their own air; so they hitch a ride whenever/wherever they can.

http://www.military.com/daily-...led-kc130-crash.html

A tragic Marine KC-130 Hercules crash in Mississippi on Monday afternoon claimed the lives of seven elite troops from Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command, officials confirmed Tuesday.

The aircraft, a transport plane assigned to Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron (VMGR) 452, a New York-based Reserve unit, went down in LeFlore County, Miss., around 4 p.m. All 16 troops aboard, including 15 Marines and a Navy corpsman, were killed in the service's deadliest aviation accident in years.

Six of the Marines and the corpsman belonged to 2nd Marine Raider Battalion out of Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, MARSOC spokesman Maj. Nicholas Mannweiler told Military.com. The MARSOC troops had been en route to Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Arizona, for a pre-deployment training exercise ahead of a future deployment to the Middle East, Mannweiler said.

Ugh, that's the second aviation mishap that has struck MARSOC. They had guys on that -60 crash in horrible weather near Hurlbert a year or so ago.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Ugh, that's the second aviation mishap that has struck MARSOC. They had guys on that -60 crash in horrible weather near Hurlbert a year or so ago.

From what I am hearing, these guys are from the same unit as the Hurlbert crash.

The commanding officer of 2nd Raider Battalion was best man at my wedding and a very good friend.
Breathed a big sigh of relief after hearing from him after reading the Marines were MARSOC from his Battalion.

Chatted with him this morning.
He said the outpouring of support has been humbling.

I've heard the plane landed upside down, in a field of beans. Witnesses said you couldn't even see the plane, that's how hard it hit. One witness said he thought it was a stunt plane doing aerobatics.

I spoke with a former USMC pilot about this, he said something catastrophic would have had to happen. Especially at 20,000 feet. No distress call or anything.

Semper Fi, Marines and Corpsman.

RIP.

One of my Patrol Sergeants recently retired as the Sergeant Major of VMGR-452. He's devastated over this.

I'm flying with my kids to MS on a C-130 tomorrow :/ I'll be so not nervous now!!!

Marine Corps Releases Identities of 16 Servicemen Killed in KC-130T Crash

https://news.usni.org/2017/07/...led-in-kc-130t-crash

RIP warriors. May the families receive all the strength and comfort.

I read that there were two crash sites, one half a mile north of a road, the other half a mile south. That's not a good sign.

Commanding Officer of 2nd Raider Battalion, Sec. of Navy & assistant Comandant of the Corps flew to Dover to observe transfer of the remains to Mortuary Affairs yesterday.

Investigation blames Air Force and Navy for systemic failures in fatal Marine Corps C-130 crash that killed 16

Article with video:

https://www.militarytimes.com/...rash-that-killed-16/

Accident report:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/stati...anky-72-redacted.pdf

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USMC just lost another C-130 and F-18 over Japan:

https://www.marinecorpstimes.c...8-fighter-jet-crash/

Regardless of who they blame, that C-130 crash in MS is horrific.

The findings are just depressing...Those poor guys

In the CG there is ONE place that all aircraft go to each year to be torn down to the rivets and inspected, its in Elizabeth City and the unit replaces everything that is out of spec....or the air-frame is retired...

the CG has a lot of C-130's and the air-frames are very old, but no one would give a "go" on a prop inspection that was de-laminating or has cracks...

I can't imagine someone allowing a plane to leave it's facility with an unsat prop.....

A buddy of mine was the AC of a P3 that had a very similar accident. Loss of one blade knocks out a second engine. Walking prop across underside of fuselage cuts hydraulics and actually "pulls" the E (shutdown) cables for the remaining engines. They ended up ditching in the Indian Ocean within sight of land and near a fishing boat. No hydraulics, no power. Everyone got out alive. It was the most amazing "miracle" flight I have ever personally been aware of. Over land and with this scenario, unsurvivable. Sad.

Also corrosion.

To me, the C-130 is a symbol of freedom. Maybe because of its long service history all over the world. I love the sound of the turbo props.
RIP / Semper Fi, Marines!

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Originally posted by Sgt Neutron:
When I saw that they think it is structural failure, I think of this incident:

I used to fly that airplane, and I flew with all three crew members. I gave one of them his initial checkride when first hired, and provided some of his training. I was in that airplane in Mexico when both wings cracked through, and I did my flight engineer checkride in it, too.

That was an A model; one of those oldest flying.

It seems like yesterday. I remember exactly where I was when I learned about the crash, too...strapping in and loading for a fire dispatch.