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Originally posted by HRK:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I’ve never understood the EV hysteria.

I was the same until I drove them, once you have and get over the range anxiety, which isn't a thing anymore for 99% of the country, they make a lot of sense for daily commutes over ICE.

Plus even the slow ones are super quick, some are blindingly fast for the street as is any Plaid model in the Tesla line or PGT's Lucid Gravity GT... They are quieter than comparable ICE vehicles and smooth to drive.

Not to mention, you don't have to stop and get robbed at any gas stations, in fact I've been in maybe three gas stations since we turned on the home charging system. I've saved a ton on WaWa sub sandwich's and iced drinks alone!

Then again a 5.0 GT Mustang was burbling by in the Publix parking lot, that v8 sounds good...

I read where the Mach-E may be on the way out at Ford as they are redoing EV's completely as Ford learns how China is building them for less, a lot less.

Festus, Teslas with the FSD active is a big thing for seniors, it helps with driving as it can self drive you as you get older and concerned with getting out in traffic due to slower reflexes and feel safer.

That’s so true. The government screwed up by pushing them too hard so people naturally recoiled. If you have charging at home the EV has the highest return customers in the industry. Almost everyone that has experienced one says the same thing. Once you’ve driven a good EV for a while an ICE vehicle feels very out of date and old technology.

I bought the Mercedes coupe shown in my pic parked in the garage back in August as a fun weekend car. I've spent more than the car cost me on required work to get it reliable (went in eyes open on this) and it's been in and out of the shop much of this spring as we got it fully sorted. I love both and even more, love not being being forced into one by the Government. I get to choose what I want to drive each day...depending on where I'm going and what I need that day.

The MB came out on Sat night for a cancer fundraiser car event and again for a local Cars and Coffee on Father's Day as my daughter asked if we could go and take the V12 twin turbo. Been driving the Lucid the last two days as I had to make a run to to Old Town Alexandria yesterday to do a friend-to-friend literal-trunk-sale-in-an-alley before assault weapons are banned next week here in VA. It was pouring down rain, the alley was an old cobblestone street and I could raise the Lucid up to it's highest level whereas the MB would have dragged on the cobbles.

I think electric cars have a HELL of a way to go before they begin to really challenge ICE vehicles. They should pay attention to what electric dirt bikes are doing in my opinion.

A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to ride a high power electric dirtbike around Norfolk Virginia. Technically the bike was not street legal but it could easily be made legal.

Full disclosure: I have been a HUGE electric motorcycle hater in the past. The EridePro e-dirtbike I rode blew my mind and completely changed my opinion. It isn’t even close to the top tier in terms of e-dirtbike performance but it was still wild as hell.

I liken it to a Honda Grom (super light motorcycle) in terms of handling/weight but with the acceleration of a 650cc-750cc street bike up to about 55-65 mph. After about 60 it plateaus and the acceleration falls off. But for around town riding it is mental and the regenerative braking is tunable on the fly with a button on the left side of the handlebars and not only saves your brakes but extends your range. These things are AMAZING. I rode around for an hour and half and only saw the battery go down by 11 percent!

I rofe around for an hour and half all over Ghent and saw the battleship Wisconsin, the jade garden thing near the battleship and rode a ton of backroads and neighborhoods I had never seen before.

It was one of the most fun rides I’d ever been on.

Once these e-dirt bikes become dual sports (street legal) and get priced around Honda Grom/Z125 Pro pricing it’s going to be a game changer. I wasn’t being an asshole and doing wheelies so I didn’t attract any attention from law enforcement, hopefully the chuckleheads don’t get this things banned before they get a chance to become a viable & legal mode of transportation.

Battery swaps on these things take only a few minutes! Electric cars cannot do that.

Another compliant I have is some states (Commonwealth of Kentucky) will send you an additional tax bill/fee/whatever for owning a hybrid or electric vehicle. And this is on top of the ridiculous yearly vehicle tax you already pay.

This is part of the save the planet drive a hybrid scam.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Another compliant I have is some states (Commonwealth of Kentucky) will send you an additional tax bill/fee/whatever for owning a hybrid or electric vehicle. And this is on top of the ridiculous yearly vehicle tax you already pay.

Is the additional tax to cover the road-use tax the EV owner didn't pay by not buying gasoline/diesel?

Yes.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Another compliant I have is some states (Commonwealth of Kentucky) will send you an additional tax bill/fee/whatever for owning a hybrid or electric vehicle. And this is on top of the ridiculous yearly vehicle tax you already pay.

Is the additional tax to cover the road-use tax the EV owner didn't pay by not buying gasoline/diesel?

Georgia has something similar. Tag renewals are like $230 or so. Was a surprise for me the first year.

And how is that tax a failure of the EV?

It isn't, it's been one of the things the EV crowd has enjoyed for the years that they have been pushed into production and the market.

Governments get on the feel good bandwagon and give out $$$ to get the market moving, then forget or ignore the road tax income situation when nobody is buying fuel.

Stick I bet that little electric bike is fun, I rode the HD Livewire when it came out, they had them at the demo tent in Daytona, and it was really interesting, you had two drive modes, and in full power it was unreal quick. For me at my size it didn't work in the same way a small cc bike doesn't work.

If HD had built it with more of a laid back cruiser vibe it might have survived, lots of HD owners own more than one bike, range was an issue back then as was charging.

Super Unleaded is $4.64 a gallon, that's what my old F150 required, didn't buy a gallon today,

The real rub is that a lot EV people can’t just say it works for them and explain the hows and whys it works for them. No, they have to say that because it works for them, it must work for everyone else as well if everyone else would just change. These people support their claims with fuzzy math, false logic, and name calling. We have both kinds of EV music.

Its no different than ICE people who've never owned or driven and EV to tell everyone why they are wrong, don't work, never will work, or one excuse over the other why it's not feasable.