I'm OK. I can hit the broad side of a barn.

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Originally posted by jljones:Take one course that I teach. The prereq is the ability to hit a man sized target from the holster at seven yards in 1.5 seconds on demand. After the lecture on the first day, guess what the first round fired is for time and score? Yep, one round from the holster in 1.5. About 20-30 percent make it. Now, the prereq says you have to have the skill to do it on demand.

While I understand that it is a prerequisite for your class, that may or may not be a good measure of a "good shooter". There are probably a lot of old school bullseye shooters that couldn't do it, but could knock the lights out at small targets or long ranges.

Then a bullseye shooter probably shouldn’t take that class.

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Agreed, but I still think they could be considered a good shooter.

I am a very good shooter. This was taught, it was beaten into my skull from the beginning. I really started at 11, my uncle had a very strict regimen he put me through with chanting and all sorts of weird stuff. Archery with a peep sight and site taught me everything I could ever want to know about sight picture, stance, and follow through. Treating shooting like a perishable skill maintains the progress I have made.

Just measuring groups is not the measure of a shooter.

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Originally posted by guardianangel762:
I am a very good shooter. This was taught, it was beaten into my skull from the beginning. I really started at 11, my uncle had a very strict regimen he put me through with chanting and all sorts of weird stuff. Archery with a peep sight and site taught me everything I could ever want to know about sight picture, stance, and follow through. Treating shooting like a perishable skill maintains the progress I have made.

Just measuring groups is not the measure of a shooter.

I don't give a hoot about groups unless it's are they both "A"s or did I hit the steel?

To the bulls eye shooter they'd probably have an heart attack.

So I guess it depends on what disciplines you shoot.

I think there is some truth to being born good or natural. I am not a good shooter. I have my own little range and I get to shoot a lot. I'm just very average. Guys come to shoot with me and often out shoot me. They rarely get to shoot, but do better than me or as good as me.

I was born a good shooter and have been continually improving. Now when I'm doing double taps, I have to concentrate to keep from putting both bullets into the same hole.

I took to firearms right away, I did not grow up around them though. My parents were not “anti gun”, they just weren’t interested and Dad didn’t hunt. I was CONSTANTLY drawing pictures of handguns in and my school folders growing up. My parents didn’t know what to think of my fascination with guns. Finally at 19, a good friend I’d met taught me the basics and safety. The hook was set even further. I turned 21 and bought a Gen 2 Glock 17. Then I became an FFL. I can’t say I’m a phenomenal shooter, but it’s in my blood. I’m on FFL number three now and also hold an SOT. There’s no end in sight.

I'm decent with a rifle, but was puzzled for the longest time why my groups were all over with a handgun. After going online and reading about how handguns "fit" people differently and various ways to hold them, things got better. What made a big difference was reading about eye dominance, something I had never heard before. Finding out I'm left eye dominant as a right handed shooter and practicing as such made me better.

Now, due to a jacked up left eye, I'm right/right and relearning.

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Too many shooters think shooting hundreds of rounds every weekend makes them a better shooter. In most cases it does not. Go back and analyze your dry practice vs. live practice. If your not improving I would bet its because your shooting but not really training. Dry practice includes visualization. When you finally really see what's going on when executing a great shot, you will know you're doing right. There will be no doubts. I know it's not as much fun, but if you want to get better you gotta do it. Trigger, trigger, trigger.

I know plenty of people that practice practice practice and still can’t put 15 rounds in one ragged hole at 7 yards taking their time. I think it’s more than just practice and technique. I think there’s an innate component to it.

Training.

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Originally posted by OTD:Speed is one thing, but the process to hit the target another, but hitting the target in a bullseye match ore in one of jjones classes requires the same skills. Speed comes with the skill but is a matter of training. There is no short cut in Shooting.

I am not familiar with all the rules of Bullseye, but didn't think it involved drawing from a holster. Perhaps I'm wrong.

we dont draw. The pistol is held in a 45° ready position.

45 to the target is international pistol rules. NRA bullseye allows pointing at the target at the start of the string of fire.

About half the BE shooters I know shoot other pistol disciplines. I'm not an action shooter and I can meet Jjones 1.5 second draw and shoot standard. All it takes is training.

I was always a good shot. I can't remember the first time I ever shot a gun. I must have been around 6. I remember hitting cans when we were out camping and my dad bought me a Daisy Powerline 880 as a kid. I would shoot in the backyard every day (in the 1980s' when you were still allowed to shoot BB guns in the backyard in California).

We had no birds in our neighborhood; I shot them all. We had an orange and a nectarine tree in the backyard and I'd shoot the fruit off the trees.

Then I grew up and joined the Marines and really learned how to shoot. I've just got better and better ever since. I actually learned to shoot pistols by reading articles and watching videos that were linked here on SigForum. I'd practice dry-firing every day when I was single. After I got remarried, that would probably seem creepy to the new wife.

Whenever I take people to the range, I usually end up teaching them or others around me how to shoot as well as fixing their guns (has happened multiple times since the RO's learned that I'm an M14/M1A guru).

Tony.

Good shooter? Hell, I was born to live by the gun.

I am unfortunately not a good shot. My brother is marginally better (boy I hate to admit that). My dad grew up poor, and if he didn't shoot it, his family didn't eat. To this day, he can pick up a pistol and shoot things at 50 yards I can't reliably hit at 15. My uncle Paul was even better. He could repeatedly draw from a holster, take 6 shotgun shells off of a fence row at 50 yards, and be back in the holster within a couple of seconds. It really was a treat to watch. I really think if he had different circumstances he probably could have been competitive with the "elite" shooters of our time, which is something I will never be able to do regardless of time spent training.