Originally posted by grumpy1: The senate tax vote was 51-49 which shows how important a single senate seat can be. With McCain and Collins and losing a senate the republicans would find a very difficult time to pass much of any legislation. SCOTUS nominations could be in jeapordy too.
^^^^Exactly this!
The accusations against Moore are a fart in the wind.
Putting his radical Democrat (C) opponent in the office is cutting your own throat.
I hope the people of Alabama are smart enough to see through the smoke and do the right thing -- Elect Roy Moore!
Thanks,
Sap
December 03, 2017, 07:44 PM
grumpy1
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Originally posted by lbj: Maybe this CBS poll had something to do with Mitch reading the handwriting on the wall.
The WashPo poll showing Jones leading was ludicrous at best and doesn't matter. There were sampling errors.
It's interesting to me that while others accused of sex things immediately apologized, Moore stood up to the allegations and declared them false. That sounds like an innocent man to me. And the stories told about him have been getting shot down with regularity. Moore may very well win.
It is incredulous to me that certain reps and Dems who did these dirty tricks knew they were false and deliberately pedaled them. That's just plain evil. Yet Moore withstood the accusations and I doubt anyone anywhere thought Moore would still be standing and have not dropped out of the race weeks ago.
I would hope after his election, Moore goes after all these folks in court.
Here's a Guardian article on Moore from today where they went to Australia to interview people who knew him there 33 years ago. This strikes me as odd and an example of how weird all this is. https://www.theguardian.com/us...e-outback-wilderness
"It's interesting to me that while others accused of sex things immediately apologized, Moore stood up to the allegations and declared them false. That sounds like an innocent man to me."
Yep. Sean Hannity did the same thing and he is still on the air. MSM media is obviously not covering the lies of the accusers. I hope the people of Alabama see through this crap and do the right thing. Jones is trying to paint himself as someone he is not but make not mistake he is pro abortion (even partial birth), wants open orders and amnesty, is pro big government, and is for drastic gun bans.
An organization partnered with a George Soros-financed group and led by a radical leftist who is the half-brother of the infamous controversial Rev. Al Sharpton has been diligently working over the past few weeks to register convicted felons across Alabama.
The aim of the effort has been to get as many felons as possible on the roster before last Monday, the deadline to register in order to vote in Alabama’s Dec. 12 senate special election that pits Republican Roy Moore against Democratic challenger Doug Jones. The man spearheading the campaign has stated outright that his effort is meant to ensure a Democratic victory in Alabama.
Speaking on his radio program, Glasgow charged that “swarming the polls” with newly registered convicts could swing the vote, pointing as a template to the Virginia governor’s race. In that state, Gov. Terry McAuliffe used his executive power in April to restore voting rights for over 200,000 felons.
“We have the chance to do the same thing they did in Virginia,”
A Soros-funded group called the Campaign Legal Center filed the lawsuit against Alabama last year calling for a public educational campaign to inform felons of their regained right to vote. The litigation is still ongoing.
Besides funding from Soros, the Campaign Legal Center documents that it receives financing from the Soros-funded Tides Foundation and from the Soros-funded Brennan Center for Justice.
Doug Jones himself has spearheaded numerous Brennan projects, including one seeking full voting rights nationwide be given to all felons released from prison regardless of their crimes.
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Let's really hope Roy Moore is elected.
December 03, 2017, 10:47 PM
Il Cattivo
Yeah, and that's...probably not really the kind of publicity that Moore's opponent wants in a place like Alabama. Who knows how many people will be motivated to come out and vote against whoever the convicts want in office?
December 03, 2017, 10:54 PM
dwood4
None of us can say conclusively that Moore is innocent of the accusations. And if he is ever proven guilty, Ill be the first to say so. But the accusations against him are far different than those of Weinstien(numerous and collaborating accusers plus admission that"I need help") and Franken (photographic evidence) and Conyers (tax payer money to cover up abuse). Moores accusers just waited 40 years to come forward. Not to mention the other damning facts about his accusers (see other Sig Forum thread). Only a true fool would vote for the democrat because of the BS democratic scheme. Moore would have to be proved guilty to consider not voting for the republican, and thats not going to happen. That would be voting for abortion, big government, higher taxes, increased intitlements, etc. etc. etc. And yes, giving the liberal left 1, probably 2 seats on the supreme court which would swing the court way to the left and change our country from now on. I couldnt do that to my kids and grandkids.
"MOBILE, Alabama — The Republican National Committee (RNC) is now again backing Judge Roy Moore, the GOP nominee for the U.S. Senate in Alabama. The RNC’s decision to now publicly support Moore again comes in the wake of President Donald Trump’s wholehearted endorsement of Moore on Monday morning. “We stand with the president,” a senior RNC official told Breitbart News.
The RNC notified the RNC members from Alabama on Monday afternoon that the national party would resume financial support to back the state party in its efforts to elect Moore to the U.S. Senate. At this time, since this development is fresh, it remains unclear exactly what that means, but sources close to RNC leadership told Breitbart News that it would become apparent in the coming days.
Throughout this process, since the Washington Post published frivolous evidence-free allegations against Moore, the RNC’s position has closely mirrored the White House position on Moore. At first, the RNC held out criticism or withdrawal of support while the president was overseas in Asia on a multi-day, multi-country trip. Then, the RNC withdrew support — something the White House said it supported — while Trump himself had not yet weighed in. A week plus into the narrative, however, Trump himself noted that radical leftist Democrat Doug Jones is too extreme for Alabama to serve in the Senate and that Moore “totally denies” the allegations against him. At that point, RNC chair Ronna McDaniel said the voters of Alabama would decide.
“[T]he allegations were obviously very concerning to the degree that we pulled our resources,” McDaniel said in an interview with radio host John Catsimatidis in late November:
Roy Moore cannot be replaced on the ballot. He is the candidate. The Alabama party has stood by that. So now, the Alabama voters are going to have to be the judge and jury on this. They’re going to have to look at the women that have come forward with these very concerning allegations and then what [Moore] is putting forward and they’re going to have to make a decision as to whether or not they want him to represent their state in the United States Senate.
But, now, as Breitbart News can exclusively reveal, the RNC has begun pouring resources back into Alabama as President Trump has lined up behind Judge Moore for the home stretch. Earlier on Monday, President Trump tweeted an endorsement of Moore."
December 04, 2017, 07:46 PM
parabellum
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Originally posted by grumpy1: RNC is supporting Roy Moore again including financial support.
With friends like that...
December 04, 2017, 08:18 PM
Il Cattivo
With eight days to go, it can't hurt. It's not like anyone is going to seriously consider Moore indebted to the GOP leadership because of it.
December 05, 2017, 10:51 AM
sdy
A general comment on how perspectives have changed over the last 40 years
The per cent of women who completed college: 2016 .. 33.7% 1977 .. 12%
Median age of women at first marriage 2015 .. 27.1 yo 1977 .. 21.6 yo
So 40 years ago, half of the women at first marriage were under 21.6 yo.
A lot more young women back then went quickly from high school to marriage. Just pointing out that norms have changed over time.This message has been edited. Last edited by: sdy,
December 05, 2017, 12:30 PM
lkdr1989
Thought this was hilarious....and people keep underestimating POTUS.
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Donald Trump Brought Jeff Flake to the White House — and Endorsed Roy Moore Again
President Donald Trump met with Senate Republicans at the White House on Tuesday to discuss trade, including Sen. Jeff Flake — who was seated next to the president.
Although the meeting was closed to the press, Trump appeared to change his mind by allowing the White House pool into the Roosevelt room as he discussed the upcoming tax cut bill and trade.
With Flake seated at his left side, Trump again endorsed Roy Moore for Senate in Alabama.
“I think he’s going to do very well,” the president said, in response to questions about Moore. “We don’t want to have a liberal democrat in Alabama. Believe me.”
Flake denounced Moore in a message on Twitter on Monday, agreeing with Mitt Romney that if Roy Moore won his campaign it would be a big loss for the Republican party and the entire country.
But Trump said that Moore’s victory was important for the Republican party.
“We want strong borders, we want stopping crime, we want to have the things that we represent, and we certainly don’t want to have a liberal Democrat that’s controlled by Nancy Pelosi and controlled by Chuck Schumer,” Trump said.
Other senators expected to attend the meeting on trade included Senators Lamar Alexander, Joni Ernst, Deb Fischer, Cory Gardner, and Lindsey Graham.
“Let’s make great trade deals, instead of the horrible trade deals that we got stuck with,” Trump said.
...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV
"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
December 05, 2017, 12:41 PM
Il Cattivo
I wonder if Flake really should've made a point of saying that he's not running again. It kinda reduces him to a ball bearing in the pachinko palace that is Washington, D.C.
An organization partnered with a George Soros-financed group and led by a radical leftist who is the half-brother of the infamous controversial Rev. Al Sharpton has been diligently working over the past few weeks to register convicted felons across Alabama.
We opened this damn door ourselves (well the legislature and governor did). Passing the "Moral Turpitude" Act and the damn governor signed it.
Felons should never have the vote again, and we gave it to them.
However, the people of AL are not fooled by the bleating of the MSM.
RMD
TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free.
If the ethics committee recommends action against Moore, there is a process that leads to a Senate vote. Moore could be expelled by 2/3 of the members voting
You know every DEM would vote to expel, so it would take 19 REP senators to vote to expel.
Would be very very ugly.
December 05, 2017, 05:30 PM
grumpy1
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Originally posted by sdy: 'what can McConnell, or the ethics committee, really do to Moore?"
If the ethics committee recommends action against Moore, there is a process that leads to a Senate vote. Moore could be expelled by 2/3 of the members voting
You know every DEM would vote to expel, so it would take 19 REP senators to vote to expel.
Would be very very ugly.
IMO that will never happen. Precedent on explusion has been only for activity while a person was a sitting senator and not before that.
Note: After extensive deliberation, the Senate took no action, assuming that it lacked jurisdiction over members' behavior before their election to the Senate. The alleged embezzlement had occurred 13 years earlier.
December 05, 2017, 06:18 PM
lkdr1989
Apparently, Jeff Flake just wrote a $100 check to Doug Jones' campaign. Sheesh
