If state legislatures still chose U.S. senators, as they did for most of our history, Alabama might not be having her Moore problems. America should repeal the 17th Amendment and go back to having state legislatures choose U.S. senators. Not only that, the repeal should stipulate that senators hold their jobs only at the pleasure of their state legislatures. In other words, state legislatures could sack senators at any time. U.S. senators should be seen as ambassadors of states to the central government in D.C. But with the 17th Amendment, they’ve gone rogue, and have forgotten why they’re in D.C., which is to represent the states.

The great state of Alabama is one of the reddest of red states. It would be a pity if she were represented by someone as out of step with Alabama’s culture as Doug Jones, who would immediately become a lackey of “Cryin’ Chuck” Schumer.

http://www.americanthinker.com...ands_of_alabama.html

^^^Precisely the reason that I will vote for Moore, or any other name on the ballot representing the Republican party.

I'm not a fan of Moore, nor have I ever been. He reminds me of a TV preacher, and not in a good way. But I will vote for ANYONE other than a Dem. If for no other reason, for the Supreme Court nominees sure to come up in the next few years.

I have no problem if Moore is recalled immediately after the election. In fact, I would support such a recall. The Republican Governor can then appoint another temporary Senator until another special election can be held.

quote:

Originally posted by JALLEN:
OAN is carrying a story just now eroding the credibility of the women accusers.

The stakes are so high that anything is possible.

Yes, and while I saw only part of it, that part showed that the year book thing was phony! Not written by Moore at all. Thorough analysis of it appears to discredit the whole damned thing.

But then, why would I be surprised that the libtard democraPs would resort to such tactics?

quote:

Thorough analysis of it appears to discredit the whole damned thing.

But then, why would I be surprised that the libtard democraPs would resort to such tactics?

Well... they got away with it when they created a fake .pdf and released it as Obama's birth certificate....

quote:

Originally posted by chellim1:
If state legislatures still chose U.S. senators, as they did for most of our history, Alabama might not be having her Moore problems.

Some people need to get some sleep - this has gotten to the point where they're clutching at absurd straws.

After all, what happens when "get along/go along/shut up and submit" type Republicans get control of a state legislature? What happens if there's a Dem legislature and the voters decide they want to send a conservative to DC?

Let dead horses rot in peace.

Check out the photo of the yearbook thing.
Why is part of it black and part of it blue?
If you are going to accuse, have proof that looks believable.
The year is either fake or has been altered or both.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.co.../DOjAmMWX4AAKs0H.jpg

The accusers stepson says she is lying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAzrDo5bIxY

Forgeries, yearbooks, "victim" collusion, car door safety locks, diner parking lots, etc. -- I'm surprised none of the radio talkers are spending any time on this stuff, in fact, they're pointedly avoiding it.

Listening to a bunch of these folks at this time, on the mend from surgery so not that mobile.

Bear in mind that this all blew up rather recently. Some commentators may have just enough sense to wait for at least some of the dust to settle before opening their mouths on the merits of the allegations.

quote:

Originally posted by chellim1:
If state legislatures still chose U.S. senators, as they did for most of our history, Alabama might not be having her Moore problems. America should repeal the 17th Amendment and go back to having state legislatures choose U.S. senators. Not only that, the repeal should stipulate that senators hold their jobs only at the pleasure of their state legislatures. In other words, state legislatures could sack senators at any time. U.S. senators should be seen as ambassadors of states to the central government in D.C. But with the 17th Amendment, they’ve gone rogue, and have forgotten why they’re in D.C., which is to represent the states.

The great state of Alabama is one of the reddest of red states. It would be a pity if she were represented by someone as out of step with Alabama’s culture as Doug Jones, who would immediately become a lackey of “Cryin’ Chuck” Schumer.

http://www.americanthinker.com...ands_of_alabama.html

Page out of my hymn book! Been saying this for years.

Hell the liberals have got a damned fine lynch mob all set to begin the heretic burnings and the witch drownings. Seems a damned shame to discredit the accusers, despite their plans to write books.

I wrote the above because that is the state to which this entire issue has devolved.

Ryan and McConnell saying Moore is guilty of the claims absent any form of due process is a fucking outrage. They could well be the target of the next claim "he tried to grope/harass/rape/seduce me." Will they then resign their offices? Hardly.

Seriously, if you want people to believe your claim someone violated the sanctity of your person or possessions, make the claim at the time, not decades later.

I've been waiting to see how this develops before I opined. It's still in process, but what occurs to me now is that regardless of how creepy this Moore may be, he is still not as destructive as any dem. I think that says more about the dems than it does about the judge.

quote:

Ryan and McConnell saying Moore is guilty of the claims absent any form of due process is a fucking outrage. They could well be the target of the next claim "he tried to grope/harass/rape/seduce me." Will they then resign their offices? Hardly.

Not only will they NOT resign their offices... but they will make YOU pay for the cover-up!

Was that the same Congress that vowed to expel Moore the one that paid $15M in sex harassment claims?

A few days ago, members of Congress vowed to boot Roy Moore out of the Senate for ethical breaches if the Alabama voters dared elect him.

Those are the same members whose Congress, it turns out, shelled out $15 million in sexual harassment claims.

That's a $15-million taxpayer-financed slush fund designed to allow congressmembers to go sex-harassing on their own without penalty. The payouts come from us. According to NTK:

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) informed NBC's Chuck Todd on Tuesday that $15 million in taxpayer money had been paid out over the years to settle sexual harassment suits filed against members of Congress.

Earlier in the day, Speier testified in front of the House Administration Committee that two members of Congress, a Republican and a Democrat, have engaged in sexual harassment in the past.

Speier confirmed that it is the taxpayers who were on the hook for these miscreants and said she wants changes to be made so that the sex harassers should pay for their own payouts now.

http://www.americanthinker.com...rassment_claims.html

Rush's show had 2 recent Alabama polls (after the honeypot eruption) and Moore was up 6 points in 1 and 10 points in the other. Backlash is great!

quote:

Originally posted by doublesharp:
Rush's show had 2 recent Alabama polls (after the honeypot eruption) and Moore was up 6 points in 1 and 10 points in the other. Backlash is great!

Music to my ears, as I used to be a 'bama" boy!!

The hoopla is simply driving conservative AL voters to the polls. No one here likes being told by the D.C. mafia what to do.

My hope is that the backlash costs McConnell his seat.

Flake should just shut up, go home and take that tired on loony, John McCain with him.

RMD

It's interesting that you should mention that. I took a look at the New York Times today when I stopped in a store. The front page story is that Moore's opponent told the DNC to send him money, but to stay out of Alabama otherwise. Apparently any suggestion that the national Dems are behind his campaign would sink his chances of winning the election.

If that's true, then it's pretty much a straight Moore-on-Jones match.

quote:

Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

quote:

Originally posted by chellim1:
If state legislatures still chose U.S. senators, as they did for most of our history, Alabama might not be having her Moore problems.

Some people need to get some sleep - this has gotten to the point where they're clutching at absurd straws.

After all, what happens when "get along/go along/shut up and submit" type Republicans get control of a state legislature? What happens if there's a Dem legislature and the voters decide they want to send a conservative to DC?

Let dead horses rot in peace.

In the history of all bad ideas, way up near the top of that list is: letting politicians choose more politicians.

Granted, I don't want pure democracy either - tyrannies of majorities and all that - but this idea is just as bad, only differently.

No thanks.

Oh, it's more than that - it's a bad idea we got rid of when we kicked the Brits out because the Brit government wasn't responsive enough. Why various states clung to it after the revolution, I'll never know.

In the history of all bad ideas, way up near the top of that list is: letting politicians choose more politicians.

House has to face the voters every two years. A lot easier to throw the bums out if they fail to represent local values.

A poll by the National Republican Senatorial Committee has Moore down by 12 points. I call fake news on this.
Link

My guess is McConnell is putting pressure on Sessions to be a write in candidate. Sessions won 97% of the vote in 2014 and he certainly would hold the seat. I'm also guessing Sessions wants to stay right where he is.

This poll was designed to put pressure on Sessions to accept the write in. If you don't we are going to lose the seat type of pressure.

McConnell and the establishment would sooner see the dems gain the seat then see Moore in it.