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This is stupid. Populist pandering to garner political support, nothing more. When the people who actually live on the islands decide they want to be part of Argentina, then we can talk about it. Until then, the Argentine President should shut up and focus on actual legitimate problems within his country that need to be addressed.

You've already demonstrated that you can't take some Islands a couple hundred miles off your coast away from a country half a world away...do you really want to go down that road again?
 
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Needs to get his priorities straight.
Not a good sign that he'll still be there in a few years.


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What better way to unite one’s country but with a war? Only to have it again divided when you lose it. I wonder if Joe uses a medium to communicate with his dead dog for advice on political matters?


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On further review, as usual, the mainstream (mostly left) news is referring to him as extreme right wing. That's a clue that he might just be ok.

Here is a UK based article that actually analyzes his position and as usual, the headlines aren't so accurate. Click bait and intended to inflame.
He's a lot more realistic about the Falklands than his soon to be predecessor and is speaking about long term diplomatic efforts.

"Javier Milei, the Argentinian president-elect, believes the Falkland Islands belong to his country – but says the islanders must have a say in their future.

Mr Milei is less hostile to Britain than Alberto Fernandez, his Left-wing predecessor, who demanded immediate negotiations to end what he called an “anachronistic colonial situation” on the islands.

Argentina has claimed the Falklands since its independence in the 19th century, and failed to seize them by force during the 1982 Falklands War.

Mr Milei lauded Margaret Thatcher, who is still reviled in Argentina for ordering the sinking of the General Belgrano, as one of “the great leaders in the history of humanity” during his campaign. The remark was condemned by war veterans and Sergio Massa, his main presidential rival.

But he stuck to his guns in an attempt to distance himself from the confrontational approach of his predecessor and to ingratiate himself with the West, to which he has said he will look for international support.

Mr Milei has nevertheless asserted Argentina’s “non-negotiable” sovereignty over the Falklands, to which Argentina refers as the Malvinas Islands.

“We had a war – that we lost – and now we have to make every effort to recover the islands through diplomatic channels,” he said in the final televised election debate."



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/wo...er-falkland-islands/


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Mr Milei has nevertheless asserted Argentina’s “non-negotiable” sovereignty over the Falklands, to which Argentina refers as the Malvinas Islands.

“We had a war – that we lost – and now we have to make every effort to recover the islands through diplomatic channels,” he said in the final televised election debate."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/wo...er-falkland-islands/

That sounds quite reasonable to me.



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Originally posted by 220-9er:
On further review, as usual, the mainstream (mostly left) news is referring to him as extreme right wing. That's a clue that he might just be ok.

Here is a UK based article that actually analyzes his position and as usual, the headlines aren't so accurate. Click bait and intended to inflame.
He's a lot more realistic about the Falklands than his soon to be predecessor and is speaking about long term diplomatic efforts.

"Javier Milei, the Argentinian president-elect, believes the Falkland Islands belong to his country – but says the islanders must have a say in their future.

Mr Milei is less hostile to Britain than Alberto Fernandez, his Left-wing predecessor, who demanded immediate negotiations to end what he called an “anachronistic colonial situation” on the islands.

Argentina has claimed the Falklands since its independence in the 19th century, and failed to seize them by force during the 1982 Falklands War.

Mr Milei lauded Margaret Thatcher, who is still reviled in Argentina for ordering the sinking of the General Belgrano, as one of “the great leaders in the history of humanity” during his campaign. The remark was condemned by war veterans and Sergio Massa, his main presidential rival.

But he stuck to his guns in an attempt to distance himself from the confrontational approach of his predecessor and to ingratiate himself with the West, to which he has said he will look for international support.

Mr Milei has nevertheless asserted Argentina’s “non-negotiable” sovereignty over the Falklands, to which Argentina refers as the Malvinas Islands.

“We had a war – that we lost – and now we have to make every effort to recover the islands through diplomatic channels,” he said in the final televised election debate."



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/wo...er-falkland-islands/



That puts a lot more depth to his position, and he sounds far more reasonable than the headline of the article in the OP (Which I'll admit my adblocker kept me from being able to read in its entirety).

The Falklands have been used to emotionally pander to the Argentine electorate in Argentine politics forever. To say that they are rightfully British would be to commit political suicide for an Argentine presidential candidate. But having read 220-9er's post, this guy's position on the islands actually sounds pretty moderate.
 
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Is there a strategic reason or some other reason Britain needs the Falklands? If they gave them to Argentina what would it affect?
 
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Is there a strategic reason or some other reason Britain needs the Falklands? If they gave them to Argentina what would it affect?


The people who live there, who want to be British.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...0have%20been%20held.
 
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Other than that. Is that the only reason? I'm not saying that's not important, but I'm trying to wrap my head around this issue.
 
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Is there a strategic reason or some other reason Britain needs the Falklands?


Access to resources in the islands' offshore exclusive economic zone, including fish and oil. It's also an exporter of wool and lamb meat.

It also houses a decent sized airbase, extending Britain's power projection capabilities in that region of the world.

But yes, the more important issue is that it's culturally and ethnically British. In the last referendum in 2013, 99.8% of the voters wished to remain British.
 
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Originally posted by 220-9er:
On further review, as usual, the mainstream (mostly left) news is referring to him as extreme right wing. That's a clue that he might just be ok.

Here is a UK based article that actually analyzes his position and as usual, the headlines aren't so accurate. Click bait and intended to inflame.
He's a lot more realistic about the Falklands than his soon to be predecessor and is speaking about long term diplomatic efforts.

"Javier Milei, the Argentinian president-elect, believes the Falkland Islands belong to his country – but says the islanders must have a say in their future.

Mr Milei is less hostile to Britain than Alberto Fernandez, his Left-wing predecessor, who demanded immediate negotiations to end what he called an “anachronistic colonial situation” on the islands.

Argentina has claimed the Falklands since its independence in the 19th century, and failed to seize them by force during the 1982 Falklands War.

Mr Milei lauded Margaret Thatcher, who is still reviled in Argentina for ordering the sinking of the General Belgrano, as one of “the great leaders in the history of humanity” during his campaign. The remark was condemned by war veterans and Sergio Massa, his main presidential rival.

But he stuck to his guns in an attempt to distance himself from the confrontational approach of his predecessor and to ingratiate himself with the West, to which he has said he will look for international support.

Mr Milei has nevertheless asserted Argentina’s “non-negotiable” sovereignty over the Falklands, to which Argentina refers as the Malvinas Islands.

“We had a war – that we lost – and now we have to make every effort to recover the islands through diplomatic channels,” he said in the final televised election debate."



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/wo...er-falkland-islands/


I don't want nuance! I wanna be mad!

The news is just outrage and panic porn. If we don't trust them when it comes to things we know a lot about (such as guns), why would you ever take them at face value when they report on anything else?



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Argentina's new president has vowed to 'get the Falklands back', saying it is 'non-negotiable' for Britain to hand them over and compares it to the UK returning Hong Kong to China

Argentina's new president Javier Milei vowed to get the Falkland Islands back

By Rachael Bunyan

The right-wing former 'tantric sex coach' who has been elected president of Argentina believes the Falkland Islands belong to his nation and has vowed 'to get them back'.

Javier Milei, who uses a medium to communicate with his dead dog for advice on political matters, pulled off a massive upset by beating Argentina's Economy Minister Sergio Massa in Sunday's polarised presidential runoff.

But during his presidential campaign, Milei insisted that Britain returning the Falkland Islands was 'non-negotiable', adding that the territory, known as the Malvinas in Argentina, is Argentine.

Milei, a right-wing economist known as 'el Loco' - or the Madman - who promised to shake-up Argentina with his win, said he would 'make every effort' to get the Falkland Islands back - but stopped short of saying he would go to war over them.

He insisted it was 'non-negotiable' for Britain to hand the Falklands over to Argentina, comparing it to the UK returning Hong Kong to China.

The Falklands were the subject of a short but brutal war after Argentina invaded in 1982. Britain drove out the invaders after dispatching a naval armada, but the issue has never been considered settled in Buenos Aires.



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The news is just outrage and panic porn. If we don't trust them when it comes to things we know a lot about (such as guns), why would you ever take them at face value when they report on anything else?
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