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May 07, 2017, 08:46 PM
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Remember the days when defense mattered....
May 07, 2017, 09:03 PM
comet24This was reminiscent of the 80's Oilers. Those teams could score.
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May 07, 2017, 10:09 PM
C-DubsIt's exciting watching all the young talent on the Oilers.
And with my 'Hawks stinking it up and getting swept, I'd like to see the Oilers in the conference finals.
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lastmanstandingThe Blues are out. Good run for Yeo and the Blues. They knocked the Wild out so that satisfaction will take a lot of the sting out of the series loss to Nashville.
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May 08, 2017, 07:15 AM
chellim1yea... good season for the Blues and good vibe with Yeo. I had a bad feeling about that game 6 yesterday in Nashville. Then they took the early lead and I thought it was possible. Then the power play kept being given to the Preds.... oh well. Next year.
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-rduckwor May 08, 2017, 08:46 AM
SgtGoldquote:
Originally posted by mrbill345:
A player is on-side when either of his skates are in contact with or on his own side of the line, at the instant the puck completely crosses the the leading edge of the blue line regardless of the position of his stick. however, a player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered "off-side," provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the blue line..
Unfortunately it's clear as mud. At one point I was a certified referee and USA hockey has the same rule. If the Ottawa player had his stick in contact with the puck he would be on side. As the picture shows he's completely in the Rangers zone, and not in possession of the puck. Oh well, I guess the NHL really wants a Canadian team in the playoffs.......
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May 08, 2017, 09:32 AM
mrbill345quote:
Originally posted by SgtGold:
Unfortunately it's clear as mud. At one point I was a certified referee and USA hockey has the same rule. If the Ottawa player had his stick in contact with the puck he would be on side. As the picture shows he's completely in the Rangers zone, and not in possession of the puck. Oh well, I guess the NHL really wants a Canadian team in the playoffs.......
If the player has possession of the puck before crossing the blue line and crosses the blue line skating either forwards or backwards and he is considered on-side (as long as no other player on his team completely crosses the blue line prior to the puck). The puck does not have to be in contact with the stick.
Hope this video will help - start at around 2:45.
Explanation from NHL.TV
“Agnostic, gun owning, conservative, college educated hillbilly” May 08, 2017, 05:00 PM
SgtGoldquote:
Originally posted by mrbill345:
quote:
Originally posted by SgtGold:
Unfortunately it's clear as mud. At one point I was a certified referee and USA hockey has the same rule. If the Ottawa player had his stick in contact with the puck he would be on side. As the picture shows he's completely in the Rangers zone, and not in possession of the puck. Oh well, I guess the NHL really wants a Canadian team in the playoffs.......
If the player has possession of the puck before crossing the blue line and crosses the blue line skating either forwards or backwards and he is considered on-side (as long as no other player on his team completely crosses the blue line prior to the puck). The puck does not have to be in contact with the stick.
Hope this video will help - start at around 2:45.
Explanation from NHL.TV
My issue is the term 'possession'. It's not an objective standard, it's an opinion. If the referee or replay judge feels the player is in 'possession' of the puck, everything is on side. If not it's off side. To me a 'feeling' isn't an objective standard, and it can't be applies with uniformity. There is no guarantee that a different video judge or lineman would have called the play the same way, and to me that makes the standard too subjective to be applies evenly. I think the NHL blew the call, and it cost my team the game.
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May 08, 2017, 05:15 PM
mrbill345quote:
Originally posted by SgtGold:
My issue is the term 'possession'. It's not an objective standard, it's an opinion. If the referee or replay judge feels the player is in 'possession' of the puck, everything is on side. If not it's off side. To me a 'feeling' isn't an objective standard, and it can't be applies with uniformity. There is no guarantee that a different video judge or lineman would have called the play the same way, and to me that makes the standard too subjective to be applies evenly. I think the NHL blew the call, and it cost my team the game.
It's all subjective to the on ice officials.
At this point, I'm just happy if the standards for a penalty remain constant in the same game.
“Agnostic, gun owning, conservative, college educated hillbilly” May 08, 2017, 07:17 PM
SgtGoldquote:
Originally posted by mrbill345:
It's all subjective to the on ice officials.
At this point, I'm just happy if the standards for a penalty remain constant in the same game.
You have a point.
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May 08, 2017, 08:59 PM
drabfourPathetic.
May 08, 2017, 09:47 PM
comet24Going to be a fun game seven.
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May 08, 2017, 10:32 PM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by comet24:
Going to be a fun game seven.
Oh hell yes it will!
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis May 09, 2017, 08:36 AM
mrbill345That had to be the Pens worst played game in a couple of years - lots of bad decisions by the players. Caps played well.
“Agnostic, gun owning, conservative, college educated hillbilly” May 10, 2017, 09:17 PM
Oat_Action_ManYeah Pens! Shutout for Flower and Murray back on the bench! The Pens looked good (not hard to do after how shit they were in Gm 6).
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May 10, 2017, 09:25 PM
KuisisGreat game by the Pens, Fleury played a hell of a game. On to Ottawa.
May 10, 2017, 09:48 PM
agonyMAF was on fire tonight.
Great win, Pens!
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May 10, 2017, 09:53 PM
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Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six
May 10, 2017, 10:36 PM
mrbill345Talk about anxiety inducing. My neighborhood lost power with about 2 min left in the game. I ended up listening to the end of the game on my iPhone. Power just came back about 10 minutes ago.
Fleury was the MVP for the series. The Pens looked much better in the last 45 minutes of the game. They looked like the team that won last year.
Still not having Letang does hurt.
“Agnostic, gun owning, conservative, college educated hillbilly” May 11, 2017, 12:09 AM
FlashlightboyPreds travel to CA to take on my team.
With the Ducks advancing to the Western Conference championship round, this makes it 8 years in a row that a team from CA has been in the conference finale.
Come on Preds. Bring something we'll respect.