Tourist Brought AR-15 rifle, Handgun to Disney World Over Worries about Orlando Protests
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Originally posted by trapper189:
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but expressed attitudes about the recent murder at a demonstration in Denver serve well enough as another
That's a poor example.
Well, fortunately there are still places where it is possible to disagree with each other.
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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner.
October 15, 2020, 10:27 AM
corsair
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Originally posted by smlsig: THIS!
You would be surprised at the autonomous nature of the Disney complex. I know for a fact that they have their own highly trained security force that includes at least one ex SF guy(but probably more). Due to their high profile they have contingency plans for every conceivable terrorist action and they train regularly for them.
They got a no-fly zone authorization from the FAA citing security hazards due to their large amount of explosives (fireworks and other pyros) on property. While that stuff is all stored in a secured facilities, the real reason was to keep sight-seeing flights, photographers, drones and advertising from 'intruding' on their magic.
October 15, 2020, 10:38 AM
rscalzo
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he real reason was to keep sight-seeing flights, photographers, drones and advertising from 'intruding' on their magic.
Years back as a student in Embry Riddle, it was made very clear that any overflights of the then brand new park would result in a quick exit out the door.
Disney had their own private airport known as Walt Disney World airport. A 2000 foot strip near what is now Fort Wilderness.
Everyone was made aware that landing there without authorization would mean you weren't taking off again. Not something the school wanted to hear.
Originally posted by kidcop: FWIW, lodgings get hinky about suicides and deaths in their rooms in cases like that.
And the reason why? Because of all the people who believe, and act, as though businesses and anyone else who was remotely associated with an incident deserve to be sued into oblivion because of that association. The Mandalay Bay atrocity was a perfect example, but expressed attitudes about the recent murder at a demonstration in Denver serve well enough as another. The American people have demonstrated what they believe businesses’ liabilities in such cases should be, and the businesses have responded exactly as expected—and as they should for their own self-defense.
The Denver shooting is a bit of a special case in that there are politics involved and some on our side believe that the news folks deliberately went out and created the situation. Dunno if that is true or not, dunno if it could be proved it it is true. If it could be proved true, then maybe a case could be made that the company should have known what its folks were doing and bears some liability. If it could be proved that the company did know, approved and supported, then I’d think liability would be a slam dunk. Proving all that is a long way from wild conjecture though...
In general, there seems to be a substantial shift in attitude from when I grew up. I was taught that you can do pretty much anything you want to as long as you are willing to pour the blood, sweat, and tears required to get there. I was also taught that you are responsible for you. Sometimes bad shit just happens, and you deal with it the best that you can. Sometimes people deliberately cause bad shit, and going after them is entirely appropriate, but when bad shit “just happens”, you are not entitled to be made whole by someone else.
Lately, it seems like far too many people feel that if even their feelings get hurt someone else must pay. Far too many people are complete blithering morons, as evidenced by the absolute idiots who cheered the windfall profits taxes on the oil companies without understanding that they and everyone else who drives a vehicle with an internal combustion engine would be the ones paying those taxes. And that’s leaving aside the notion that anyone who reads the sticker on the pump and calculates how much tax is paid to the government either on a per gallon or percentage basis would realize that the government was already making vastly more on the sale of the gasoline than the so called “windfall” profits that the folks were all up in arms about the oil companies making.
October 15, 2020, 12:57 PM
Plugugly
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Originally posted by 4859: "In addition to the guns, the man brought three rifle magazines with 90 total rounds and two 9mm magazines with 20 rounds total."
That was it??
Whomever wrote that had better not look in my patrol. They'd have an acute MCI.
October 15, 2020, 01:11 PM
BigNC
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Originally posted by Plugugly:
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Originally posted by 4859: "In addition to the guns, the man brought three rifle magazines with 90 total rounds and two 9mm magazines with 20 rounds total."
That was it??
Whomever wrote that had better not look in my patrol. They'd have an acute MCI.
I was just thinking something along those lines, but about my personal vehicle. I don't ALWAYS have the AR with me but I do often. And I always have my CCW, back-up mags and a box or 5 of extra ammo- at least so I can go shoot somewhere fun if there is a neat range around... I also usually travel with a gun for the wife and whatever responsible children are with me and another back up gun for kicks.
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October 15, 2020, 05:41 PM
enidpd804
This is why I motorhome everywhere. When I use hotels, I carry my own bags of important stuff. How stupid does one have to be?
***** sorta thread drift,,I looked thru Fla’s CCW statutes and I think Jones was alluding to, but can a private person prevent you from CCW on their property? Cause I’ve looked the statute it and I can’t find it. In NC the owner can prevent you from CCW by posting the property and if someone does violate it, the only thing that can happen is, if the person doesn’t leave when told to do so, is charging them with Trespass..
Tomminator was six when we went and I left the gun in the hotel room because Disney had it posted....when we went back to Universal two years ago, I did the same- because they had it posted....and it’s their property and therefore their rules.This message has been edited. Last edited by: MikeinNC,
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